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Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Palindr?me wrote: > >>If (s)he takes the radio to pieces and never gets around to putting the >>plug on, but holds the wires in the socket with a couple of matchsticks, >>(s)he becomes an engineering academic... > > > > Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose > parts and builds a radio? > > A girl. -- SueArticle: 108051
Hello, It is bit 251 (not bit 252) that controls this feature. It is called the "SOFT_CE" bit. If you set it to one, the output clock enable is generated by a 5-input function implemented with two LUT4 and a MUXF5. If you set it to zero, the output clock enable is generated by a component called PCILOGIC which is only present in certain families. As you realize from the error message, V2Pro does not have this PCILOGIC component, so trying to use it results in a DRC error. There is a section in the Getting Started Guide that discusses this option and how it should be set, based on the target architecture. There are also other important considerations regarding the input delay buffers which merit a close read. I encourage you to review the Getting Started Guide to ensure you have all the information you need to successfully complete a design using this IP core. Good luck, Eric <axalay@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1157370203.458987.216280@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > When I to "assign CFG[254:249] = 6'b001100;" instead of "assign > CFG[254:249] = 6'b001000;" mapping error, and > when I to "assign CFG[254:249] = 6'b001100;" instead of "assign > CFG[254:249] = 6'b000100;" mapping succes. > > But I read in > > http://groups.google.ru/group/comp.arch.fpga/browse_thread/thread/fb6dbd4e603f41ae/d157626060716a3f?lnk=st&q=PCI_CORE%2FPCI_LC%2FOUT_CE%2FMAGICBOX&rnum=1#d157626060716a3f > > "Specifically, you need to set bit 251 (towards the end of the file) to > logic one instead of logic zero." > But it is a bit 252!!! > Thanks, Vasiliy Zamyatin >Article: 108052
Hello, The netlist and the simulation model are derived from the same source; it would be fair to say the simulation model is cycle-accurate but is not something you will want to try to synthesize -- it has a slightly different construction and won't have any of the attributes that are present in the netlist. These attributes (which you cannot see) are an important part of this highly-tuned IP core to ensure consistency in the results. Incidentally, if you look at a sample of net and instance names in the timing report when you use this core, you may immediately recognize the source format of the IP core... It's no secret. Eric "Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org> wrote in message news:edhnqm$u02$1@online.de... > "Duane Clark" <junkmail@junkmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:YlYKg.5530$tU.5133@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com... > > John_H wrote: > >> > >> As for "full license" I thought no source code *was* available for the > >> PCI core. There's a wrapper that instantiates some of the top-level I/O > >> and registers but the core (.ngo) is still needed since the simulation > >> model probably won't synthesize well (I never tried). > > > > I've always found those caveats somewhat amusing. Does Xilinx write one > > piece of code to generate the PCI core, and then another piece of code for > > the simulation model? How do they make sure the simulation code matches > > the synthesis version? Somehow I doubt there are two separate pieces of > > code ;) > > actually i think there are, the simulation code is generated from edif > with special non synthesis primitives. > > AnttiArticle: 108053
In message <44FC854C.694373E2@earthlink.net>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes > Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose >parts and builds a radio? Me? (;-) No, I can't claim eight; ten, though. Purely due to lack of data; I had enough parts but didn't know how to put them together. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UKArticle: 108054
In article <12fp1fneho4h0bd@corp.supernews.com>, Palindr?me <me9@privacy.net> wrote: > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Palindr?me wrote: > > > >>If (s)he takes the radio to pieces and never gets around to putting the > >>plug on, but holds the wires in the socket with a couple of matchsticks, > >>(s)he becomes an engineering academic... > > > > > > > > Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose > > parts and builds a radio? > > > > > A girl. ZING!!!!! Nice one :) -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist, or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow" somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more infoArticle: 108055
Don Bruder wrote: > In article <12fp1fneho4h0bd@corp.supernews.com>, > Palindr?me <me9@privacy.net> wrote: > > >>Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >>>Palindr?me wrote: >>> >>> >>>>If (s)he takes the radio to pieces and never gets around to putting the >>>>plug on, but holds the wires in the socket with a couple of matchsticks, >>>>(s)he becomes an engineering academic... >>> >>> >>> >>> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose >>>parts and builds a radio? >>> >>> >> >>A girl. > > > ZING!!!!! > > Nice one :) > More wishful thinking than reality, unfortunately. All the most truly exceptional engineers that I have met were/are all "fitted with, rather than fitted for".. Things may change when "My Little Pony Electronics Experimenter Kit" becomes a best seller. If only.. -- SueArticle: 108056
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 21:37:39 +0100, in comp.arch.embedded John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <44FC854C.694373E2@earthlink.net>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, >Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes > >> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose >>parts and builds a radio? > >Me? (;-) > >No, I can't claim eight; ten, though. Purely due to lack of data; I had >enough parts but didn't know how to put them together. Didn't you buy Practical Wireless/ Wireless World? You could even get those in Wales martinArticle: 108057
In message <12fp5c6er8l5ba3@corp.supernews.com>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, =?UTF-8?B?UGFsaW5kcuKYu21l?= <me9@privacy.net> writes >All the most truly exceptional engineers that I have met were/are all >"fitted with, rather than fitted for".. I've met a pretty exceptional one, of the female persuasion, through the Audi Engineering Society EMC standards group. NASA and all that. Lots of high-precision RF work, and a ham ticket. I don't know her call. Another is an Australian, into very advanced digital audio. But of course that's two among thousands. However, the number of female members of the Society is increasing rapidly. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UKArticle: 108058
In message <jb5pf2pvbva70iv7u9q2u3uui2mko35ofl@4ax.com>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, martin griffith <mart_in_medina@yahoo.esXXX> writes >Didn't you buy Practical Wireless/ Wireless World? You could even get >those in Wales I was ten in 1947. At ten, you couldn't afford a shilling for PW, let alone two for WW (and I didn't like sweets, so I wasn't spending on other stuff). I started taking WW in November 1952, but my father bought it for me for the first year. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UKArticle: 108059
"Palindr☻me" <me9@privacy.net> wrote in message news:12fooallooa1523@corp.supernews.com... > Homer J Simpson wrote: >> "Boudewijn Dijkstra" <boudewijn@indes.com> wrote in message >> news:op.tfcf4mtly6p7a2@ragnarok.lan... >> >> >>>For people with the aforementioned skill level, that wouldn't matter >>>much. It will probably say "poof!" and start to smell. Noobs who can >>>learn from this experience, gradually build the skill to make the diode >>>do absolutely nothing at all. >> >> >> Reminds me of the electrician test. You give the new guy a 5 tube ACDC >> radio and a power plug to connect to it. >> >> If he does it right and the radio runs he becomes an electrician. >> >> If he blows a fuse he becomes a radio repairman. >> >> If he takes the power out in a city block he becomes an electrical >> engineer. >> >> >> > If (s)he takes the radio to pieces and never gets around to putting the > plug on, but holds the wires in the socket with a couple of matchsticks, > (s)he becomes an engineering academic... > > ;) > > -- > Sue > You reminded me of the trip one of my former coworkers took to Pakistan around 1991-92. He was starting up the PLC-based control system we had supplied for the power plant cooling radiators, but the control room heater was a length of nichrome wire wrapped around a concrete block then spliced to a line cord! Mike (who has several 5 tube radios plus a Philco model 70 chassis in storage to be restored... eventually...)Article: 108060
>>Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes >> >>> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose >>>parts and builds a radio? >> >>Me? (;-) When I was 8, I built a number of radios. Unfortunately, they were meant to be audio amplifiers. We were very close to a powerful AM station.Article: 108061
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 18:10:24 -0400, Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote: >On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:26:40 +0200, the renowned martin griffith ><mart_in_medina@yahoo.esXXX> wrote: > >>On 3 Sep 2006 13:41:01 -0700, in sci.electronics.design "PeteS" >><PeterSmith1954@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>>Bob Ferapples wrote: >>>To save time and bandwidth, I have boiled down the vast majority of >>>postings to this newsgroup into a quick and dirty little format that >>>can speed things up. Please follow this format from now on in this >>>group. >>> >>> >> >>What is Guy Macon up to these days? Maybe worth redirecting to >>wherever he is hiding? >> >> >>martin > >Maybe in little fiefdom, the product development newsgroup. > > Last time I looked, he was averaging maybe three posts a month, and that mostly stuff he hijacked from s.e.d. and then answered himself. At least he's stopped playing the stupid crosspost-moderator game. JohnArticle: 108062
In article <721Lg.22181$ry2.8925@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "mc" <look@www.ai.uga.edu.for.address> wrote: > >>Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes > >> > >>> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose > >>>parts and builds a radio? > >> > >>Me? (;-) > > When I was 8, I built a number of radios. Unfortunately, they were meant to > be audio amplifiers. We were very close to a powerful AM station. > > Hey! That sounds like my early days! 500 yards, give or take, from the base of the local 50KW AM station's mast means #10 cans scavenged from restaurants are your friends! -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist, or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow" somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more infoArticle: 108063
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 22:26:28 +0100, in comp.arch.embedded John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In message <12fp5c6er8l5ba3@corp.supernews.com>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, >=?UTF-8?B?UGFsaW5kcuKYu21l?= <me9@privacy.net> writes > >>All the most truly exceptional engineers that I have met were/are all >>"fitted with, rather than fitted for".. > >I've met a pretty exceptional one, of the female persuasion, through the >Audi Engineering Society EMC standards group. NASA and all that. Lots of >high-precision RF work, and a ham ticket. I don't know her call. Another >is an Australian, into very advanced digital audio. > >But of course that's two among thousands. However, the number of female >members of the Society is increasing rapidly. Maybe they are better at listening? martinArticle: 108064
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:44FC835C.15124CC7@earthlink.net... > Luhan wrote: >> >> The famous N.E.D. (noise emitting diode) - goes bang just one time! > > Install a 1N34 across a light switch with the power off an d the > switch is on. Turn the power back on and wait for someone to shut it > off. Then there is a loud bang, but the light still works when they > turn it back on. I used to have 5000 spares. ;-) My kinda guy ;). Steve http://www.fivetrees.comArticle: 108065
"redbelly" <redbelly98@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1157384932.346990.260660@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > PeteS wrote: > >> Re: Please help me with (insert task here) > > Even worse is when they DON'T include the task in the subject. Eg. > "Need help, URGENT!!!" > > Mark > I've had my own rant building on this for a while, just from the posts in some EE and controls sites. There seems to be more inexperienced engineers asking for help on projects that they've been assigned to but aren't ready to handle on their own. How much of this a management issue, where the newbies are thrown to the wolves without any support or mentoring, and how much is cultural, where they are afraid that asking for help will cause them to 'lose face' by appearing unqualified? For what it's worth, English is clearly not the first language for many of the posters. I have 'been there, done that' when it comes to being in over my head. My first major project at my first engineering job was a subcontract for a mil-spec power distribution unit, essentially two circuit breaker panels and some motor controls in one cabinet. However, the company had no mil-spec experience or quality control system, so we had to create everything from scratch. 20 years later, I prefer dealing with bio-pharm cGMP. MikeArticle: 108066
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Article: 108067mc wrote: >>>Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes >>> >>> >>>> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose >>>>parts and builds a radio? >>> >>>Me? (;-) > > > When I was 8, I built a number of radios. Unfortunately, they were meant to > be audio amplifiers. We were very close to a powerful AM station. > > When I was 8, I was mostly building lamp dimmers. Not the intended function, mind you, but that's what they did :-)Article: 108068
rickman wrote: > [sample code with 8 bit instructions] > Any interest in comparing this to one of the proprietary cores such as > microBlaze or NIOS2? I have wanted to see how efficient they would be > implementing a Forth, but I have yet to work with one of them yet. This is an interesting instruction set and seems to make good use of the two stacks. My impression is that neither Microblaze nor NIOS II would do a particularly good job of executing Forth since their memory instructions seem to be of the simple register+short immediate offset type. Contrast that with the ARM (or any CISC) which can use pre-decrement and post-increment (or pre-increment and post-decrement) to move things to and from the stack. The native code for this particular task, however, would be reasonably small and fast for nearly any RISC including the two proprietary cores. Just two loads, two stores, an increment, a comparison and a branch (the last two are often a single instruction). -- JecelArticle: 108069
Joerg wrote: > > Hello Michael, > > >>The other things he told us probably dates back to the 18th century: "As > >>civilians you came, as men you will leave" and "Anything that doesn't > >>immediately lead to your death will make you tougher". > >> > > And your DI wants you to believe that they know every trick in the > > book. ;-) > > > > But the older ones do know a lot of tricks that aren't in the book. Like > never to wear freshly washed socks when 15 miles of hiking in full gear > was required. Gets you blisters in no time. They told us to wear the > socks from yesterday plus some thinner ones over them. It worked. No > blisters anymore. > > -- > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.com We didn't do a lot of marching. They cut almost two full weeks out of basic training, so we were transported in a tractor trailer across the base rather than march so we didn't drop one class. They also pulled a number of double PT sessions in the hot August & September sun at Ft Knox. I was thinking more along the lines of they thought that knew every trick a GI would pull to get away with something. They never expected a private to play mind games on them, and when they realized what I was doing, it scared the hell out of them. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 108070
In article <VP3Lg.6926$SZ3.6623@dukeread04>, Ray Andraka <ray@andraka.com> wrote: > mc wrote: > >>>Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes > >>> > >>> > >>>> Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose > >>>>parts and builds a radio? > >>> > >>>Me? (;-) > > > > > > When I was 8, I built a number of radios. Unfortunately, they were meant > > to > > be audio amplifiers. We were very close to a powerful AM station. > > > > > > When I was 8, I was mostly building lamp dimmers. Not the intended > function, mind you, but that's what they did :-) ROTFL! BTDT! :) -- Don Bruder - dakidd@sonic.net - If your "From:" address isn't on my whitelist, or the subject of the message doesn't contain the exact text "PopperAndShadow" somewhere, any message sent to this address will go in the garbage without my ever knowing it arrived. Sorry... <http://www.sonic.net/~dakidd> for more infoArticle: 108071
Steve at fivetrees wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:44FC835C.15124CC7@earthlink.net... > > Luhan wrote: > >> > >> The famous N.E.D. (noise emitting diode) - goes bang just one time! > > > > Install a 1N34 across a light switch with the power off an d the > > switch is on. Turn the power back on and wait for someone to shut it > > off. Then there is a loud bang, but the light still works when they > > turn it back on. I used to have 5000 spares. ;-) > > My kinda guy ;). > > Steve > http://www.fivetrees.com I got some people more than once. Anyway, what else would you use unmarked germanium diodes for? You can only use so many in prototypes. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 108072
Palindr?me wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Palindr?me wrote: > > > >>If (s)he takes the radio to pieces and never gets around to putting the > >>plug on, but holds the wires in the socket with a couple of matchsticks, > >>(s)he becomes an engineering academic... > > > > > > > > Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose > > parts and builds a radio? > > > > > A girl. > > -- > Sue Gee thanks. :( Five years later I was working part time repairing radios and TVs in a TV repair shop. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 108073
John Woodgate wrote: > > In message <44FC854C.694373E2@earthlink.net>, dated Mon, 4 Sep 2006, > Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes > > > Then what do you call an eight year old who takes a box of loose > >parts and builds a radio? > > Me? (;-) > > No, I can't claim eight; ten, though. Purely due to lack of data; I had > enough parts but didn't know how to put them together. > -- > OOO - Own Opinions Only. Try www.jmwa.demon.co.uk and www.isce.org.uk > 2006 is YMMVI- Your mileage may vary immensely. > > John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK I did it at eight in 1960, One from a kit, and others from scratch using magazine articles. The kit was a transistor radio, the others were variations of the very common (All American Five) type radio. I continued building radios all through high school. They were built from parts from damaged radios and surplus parts from places like "Burstein Applebee" and other US based mail order surplus places. I also took a working plastic cased Panasonic AM/FM clock radio with a melted cabinet and built a nice wood case for it. I used it for a few years, till my mother wanted me to show it to a woman she sewed for, and was pressured into selling it. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 108074
Mike Lamond wrote: > > You reminded me of the trip one of my former coworkers took to > Pakistan around 1991-92. He was starting up the PLC-based control > system we had supplied for the power plant cooling radiators, but the > control room heater was a length of nichrome wire wrapped around a > concrete block then spliced to a line cord! > > Mike (who has several 5 tube radios plus a Philco model 70 chassis > in storage to be restored... eventually...) Are you familiar with the news:rec.antiques.radio+phono newsgroup? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida
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