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On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: > On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>> >>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>> >>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing software >>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>> >>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, BMP or >>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>> >>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, arrows >>>> and labels (see attached images). >>> >>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in "free >>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>> >>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the wayside to >>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only use >>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>> >>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. But no >>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new machine. > > Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how it would > work with filters and such for my regular email. Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for everything else) access. Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) > Eudora is a great program, but > some day I won't be able to use it anymore. ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, with all attachments in the same directory. If two attachments had the same name, you lost the first, doh! But that was from 15 years ago.Article: 159401
On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: > On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>> >>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>> >>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing software >>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>> >>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, BMP or >>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>> >>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, arrows >>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>> >>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>> "free >>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>>> >>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the wayside to >>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only use >>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>> >>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. But no >>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new machine. >> >> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how >> it would >> work with filters and such for my regular email. > > Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for > everything else) access. Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I expect the internals to work the same. At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work alike, Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was little benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. > Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, > which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring > from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox > file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) > > >> Eudora is a great program, but >> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. > > ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, > with all attachments in the same directory. If two > attachments had the same name, you lost the first, > doh! No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to the subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful files elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place the numbers get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. > But that was from 15 years ago. > -- Rick CArticle: 159402
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:52:54 -0700, koradaprudvi wrote: > hi, > > i want verilog code for RS232 I did a quick search on Opencores, and found dozens. A basic UART with a fixed data rate is so easy that even I can make one. Making one that gives you configureable this and that via registers is harder, but straightforward. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com I'm looking for work -- see my website!Article: 159403
On 24/10/16 19:55, rickman wrote: > On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >> On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>> >>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing software >>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>> >>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, BMP or >>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>> >>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, arrows >>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>> >>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>>> "free >>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>>>> >>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the wayside to >>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only use >>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>> >>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. But no >>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new machine. >>> >>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how >>> it would >>> work with filters and such for my regular email. >> >> Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for >> everything else) access. > > Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I expect the > internals to work the same. So am I, and I don't care, respectively. IMAP keeps a copy of the emails on my machine (in case google disappears), and leaves the original on the google server. Occasionally I the gmail web interface when doing more complex searches. POP3 copies the files to my machines and deletes them on the server. > At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work alike, > Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was little > benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. > > >> Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, >> which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring >> from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox >> file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) >> >> >>> Eudora is a great program, but >>> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >> >> ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, >> with all attachments in the same directory. If two >> attachments had the same name, you lost the first, >> doh! > > No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to the > subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. > > The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful files > elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place the numbers > get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. > Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. Keeping them in mbox format avoids splitting them up, avoids fiddling with filename suffixes, and multiple entirely different tools can read the same format. If I want to extract a single message including attachments, then I simply select it and copy it to a folder, and hey presto there it is. I couldn't cope with Eudora's complexity for something simple like that. The only disadvantage is that my gmail inbox contains 10034 messages, and the mbox file is 890MB. Seamonkey has no problems whatsoever (Thunderbird did; that's why I swapped)Article: 159404
On 10/24/2016 4:51 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:52:54 -0700, koradaprudvi wrote: > >> hi, >> >> i want verilog code for RS232 > > I did a quick search on Opencores, and found dozens. > > A basic UART with a fixed data rate is so easy that even I can make one. > Making one that gives you configureable this and that via registers is > harder, but straightforward. Lol, even *you*? -- Rick CArticle: 159405
On 10/24/2016 5:26 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: > On 24/10/16 19:55, rickman wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>> On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >>>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing >>>>>>> software >>>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, >>>>>>> BMP or >>>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, >>>>>>> arrows >>>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>>> >>>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>>>> "free >>>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in >>>>>> making >>>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the >>>>>> wayside to >>>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only >>>>>> use >>>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. >>>>>> But no >>>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new >>>>>> machine. >>>> >>>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how >>>> it would >>>> work with filters and such for my regular email. >>> >>> Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for >>> everything else) access. >> >> Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I expect the >> internals to work the same. > > So am I, and I don't care, respectively. > > IMAP keeps a copy of the emails on my machine (in case > google disappears), and leaves the original on the google > server. Occasionally I the gmail web interface when doing > more complex searches. > > POP3 copies the files to my machines and deletes them > on the server. Yes, I'm familiar with the two. But that isn't the user interface. All email programs use one or the other or either of the protocols. But they have different user interfaces. >> At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work >> alike, >> Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was >> little >> benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. >> >> >>> Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, >>> which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring >>> from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox >>> file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) >>> >>> >>>> Eudora is a great program, but >>>> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >>> >>> ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, >>> with all attachments in the same directory. If two >>> attachments had the same name, you lost the first, >>> doh! >> >> No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to the >> subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. >> >> The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful >> files >> elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place >> the numbers >> get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. >> Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. > > Keeping them in mbox format avoids splitting them up, > avoids fiddling with filename suffixes, and multiple > entirely different tools can read the same format. If > I want to extract a single message including attachments, > then I simply select it and copy it to a folder, and > hey presto there it is. I'm not familiar with mbox format, but then this is anotehr implementation detail that a user won't be aware of. I assume you are saying Eudora didn't do the best job on this feature. > I couldn't cope with Eudora's complexity for something > simple like that. Complexity??? What's complex? > The only disadvantage is that my gmail inbox contains > 10034 messages, and the mbox file is 890MB. Seamonkey > has no problems whatsoever (Thunderbird did; that's why > I swapped) I use T-bird for newsgroups and it's my calendar. Both have some issues, but mostly I find the user interface to be a little awkward. I find it freezes for some seconds periodically, even while typing. There is no need for that really. I didn't realize Seamonkey was much different from T-bird. What would it take to switch? Could I port all the emails I have used on T-bird and the account setups including the newsgroup stuff? -- Rick CArticle: 159406
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 19:43:11 -0400, rickman wrote: > On 10/24/2016 4:51 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: >> On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:52:54 -0700, koradaprudvi wrote: >> >>> hi, >>> >>> i want verilog code for RS232 >> >> I did a quick search on Opencores, and found dozens. >> >> A basic UART with a fixed data rate is so easy that even I can make >> one. >> Making one that gives you configureable this and that via registers is >> harder, but straightforward. > > Lol, even *you*? Even me. One of the two times I've done HDL for money I had a UART in there sending decoded information to a computer. (I was reading call progress information off of someone's PBX -- that's all I can remember, though). -- www.wescottdesign.comArticle: 159407
On 25/10/16 00:49, rickman wrote: > On 10/24/2016 5:26 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >> On 24/10/16 19:55, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>>> On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >>>>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing >>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, >>>>>>>> BMP or >>>>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, >>>>>>>> arrows >>>>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>>>>> "free >>>>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in >>>>>>> making >>>>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the >>>>>>> wayside to >>>>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. >>>>>>> But no >>>>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new >>>>>>> machine. >>>>> >>>>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how >>>>> it would >>>>> work with filters and such for my regular email. >>>> >>>> Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for >>>> everything else) access. >>> >>> Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I expect the >>> internals to work the same. >> >> So am I, and I don't care, respectively. >> >> IMAP keeps a copy of the emails on my machine (in case >> google disappears), and leaves the original on the google >> server. Occasionally I the gmail web interface when doing >> more complex searches. >> >> POP3 copies the files to my machines and deletes them >> on the server. > > Yes, I'm familiar with the two. But that isn't the user interface. All email > programs use one or the other or either of the protocols. But they have > different user interfaces. The GUIs are the same. The semantics are /slightly/ different, but that's directly understandable from the high-level POP3/IMAP philosophy of where the files are stored. >>> At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work >>> alike, >>> Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was >>> little >>> benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. >>> >>> >>>> Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, >>>> which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring >>>> from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox >>>> file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) >>>> >>>> >>>>> Eudora is a great program, but >>>>> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >>>> >>>> ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, >>>> with all attachments in the same directory. If two >>>> attachments had the same name, you lost the first, >>>> doh! >>> >>> No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to the >>> subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. >>> >>> The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful >>> files >>> elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place >>> the numbers >>> get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. >>> Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. >> >> Keeping them in mbox format avoids splitting them up, >> avoids fiddling with filename suffixes, and multiple >> entirely different tools can read the same format. If >> I want to extract a single message including attachments, >> then I simply select it and copy it to a folder, and >> hey presto there it is. > > I'm not familiar with mbox format, but then this is anotehr implementation > detail that a user won't be aware of. I assume you are saying Eudora didn't do > the best job on this feature. > > >> I couldn't cope with Eudora's complexity for something >> simple like that. > > Complexity??? What's complex? > > >> The only disadvantage is that my gmail inbox contains >> 10034 messages, and the mbox file is 890MB. Seamonkey >> has no problems whatsoever (Thunderbird did; that's why >> I swapped) > > I use T-bird for newsgroups and it's my calendar. Both have some issues, but > mostly I find the user interface to be a little awkward. I find it freezes for > some seconds periodically, even while typing. There is no need for that really. Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives such as Eudora. I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly the same problem, but it doesn't. Of course, when I compress the mbox (before archiving it) that account freezes while the 1GB file is copied at 50MB/s. Other accounts and newsgroups keep working, so I assume a degree of multithreading. > I didn't realize Seamonkey was much different from T-bird. What would it take > to switch? Could I port all the emails I have used on T-bird and the account > setups including the newsgroup stuff? Yes, with 99.5% probability. I suspect you could flip between the two on the same directory tree, but prudence dictates copying the directory tree. On my machine that is ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/k7xa5cev.default/ Note the similarity in naming conventions! Download seamonkey, copy tree, try it, see what you think.Article: 159408
On 10/24/2016 8:19 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: > On 25/10/16 00:49, rickman wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 5:26 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>> On 24/10/16 19:55, rickman wrote: >>>> On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>>>> On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >>>>>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing >>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, >>>>>>>>> BMP or >>>>>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, >>>>>>>>> arrows >>>>>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>>>>>> "free >>>>>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in >>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open >>>>>>>> source? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the >>>>>>>> wayside to >>>>>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>>>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>>>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. >>>>>>>> But no >>>>>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new >>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how >>>>>> it would >>>>>> work with filters and such for my regular email. >>>>> >>>>> Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for >>>>> everything else) access. >>>> >>>> Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I >>>> expect the >>>> internals to work the same. >>> >>> So am I, and I don't care, respectively. >>> >>> IMAP keeps a copy of the emails on my machine (in case >>> google disappears), and leaves the original on the google >>> server. Occasionally I the gmail web interface when doing >>> more complex searches. >>> >>> POP3 copies the files to my machines and deletes them >>> on the server. >> >> Yes, I'm familiar with the two. But that isn't the user interface. >> All email >> programs use one or the other or either of the protocols. But they have >> different user interfaces. > > The GUIs are the same. The semantics are /slightly/ > different, but that's directly understandable from > the high-level POP3/IMAP philosophy of where the > files are stored. At this point I think we are not communicating. I am talking about the user interface of an email program. I've never seen two the same. I think you are still talking about the protocols although I don't know how you can relate the protocol to a user interface. My point is all email programs work without the user knowing anything about the protocol. It has little impact on the user interface other than error and/or status messages. Eudora gives a bit more info by showing the several stages involved in getting the email, but that is not central to the user interface. >>>> At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work >>>> alike, >>>> Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was >>>> little >>>> benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, >>>>> which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring >>>>> from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox >>>>> file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Eudora is a great program, but >>>>>> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >>>>> >>>>> ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, >>>>> with all attachments in the same directory. If two >>>>> attachments had the same name, you lost the first, >>>>> doh! >>>> >>>> No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to the >>>> subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. >>>> >>>> The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful >>>> files >>>> elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place >>>> the numbers >>>> get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. >>>> Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. >>> >>> Keeping them in mbox format avoids splitting them up, >>> avoids fiddling with filename suffixes, and multiple >>> entirely different tools can read the same format. If >>> I want to extract a single message including attachments, >>> then I simply select it and copy it to a folder, and >>> hey presto there it is. >> >> I'm not familiar with mbox format, but then this is anotehr >> implementation >> detail that a user won't be aware of. I assume you are saying Eudora >> didn't do >> the best job on this feature. >> >> >>> I couldn't cope with Eudora's complexity for something >>> simple like that. >> >> Complexity??? What's complex? >> >> >>> The only disadvantage is that my gmail inbox contains >>> 10034 messages, and the mbox file is 890MB. Seamonkey >>> has no problems whatsoever (Thunderbird did; that's why >>> I swapped) >> >> I use T-bird for newsgroups and it's my calendar. Both have some >> issues, but >> mostly I find the user interface to be a little awkward. I find it >> freezes for >> some seconds periodically, even while typing. There is no need for >> that really. > > Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it > is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. > That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, > and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives > such as Eudora. > > I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly > the same problem, but it doesn't. I was just going to ask... > Of course, when I compress the mbox (before archiving > it) that account freezes while the 1GB file is copied > at 50MB/s. Other accounts and newsgroups keep working, > so I assume a degree of multithreading. > > >> I didn't realize Seamonkey was much different from T-bird. What would >> it take >> to switch? Could I port all the emails I have used on T-bird and the >> account >> setups including the newsgroup stuff? > > Yes, with 99.5% probability. I suspect you could > flip between the two on the same directory tree, > but prudence dictates copying the directory tree. > On my machine that is > ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/k7xa5cev.default/ > Note the similarity in naming conventions! > > Download seamonkey, copy tree, try it, see > what you think. Maybe I will. Does it have anything like Lightning for a calendar program? -- Rick CArticle: 159409
On 25/10/16 02:19, Tom Gardner wrote: > Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it > is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. > That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, > and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives > such as Eudora. > > I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly > the same problem, but it doesn't. > I see "long pauses" in older versions of Thunderbird (with an older Linux installation), but no such problems with newer versions of Thunderbird. Maybe it is quite simply a problem that has been fixed, and your Seamonkey happens to have avoided the problem that existed in some versions of the underlying Mozilla libraries.Article: 159410
On 10/25/2016 3:09 AM, David Brown wrote: > On 25/10/16 02:19, Tom Gardner wrote: > >> Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it >> is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. >> That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, >> and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives >> such as Eudora. >> >> I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly >> the same problem, but it doesn't. >> > > I see "long pauses" in older versions of Thunderbird (with an older > Linux installation), but no such problems with newer versions of > Thunderbird. Maybe it is quite simply a problem that has been fixed, > and your Seamonkey happens to have avoided the problem that existed in > some versions of the underlying Mozilla libraries. I'm running the current version and I still see plenty of delays. 45.4.0 -- Rick CArticle: 159411
On 25/10/16 08:09, David Brown wrote: > On 25/10/16 02:19, Tom Gardner wrote: > >> Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it >> is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. >> That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, >> and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives >> such as Eudora. >> >> I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly >> the same problem, but it doesn't. >> > > I see "long pauses" in older versions of Thunderbird (with an older > Linux installation), but no such problems with newer versions of > Thunderbird. Maybe it is quite simply a problem that has been fixed, > and your Seamonkey happens to have avoided the problem that existed in > some versions of the underlying Mozilla libraries. That is entirely possible. I saw the problem persist for several TB iterations, and since Seamonkey avoided them, I abandoned TB and haven't found a reason to go back. If Seamonkey disappeared or became problematical, TB would be my first port of call.Article: 159412
On 25/10/16 03:19, rickman wrote: > On 10/24/2016 8:19 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >> On 25/10/16 00:49, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/24/2016 5:26 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>>> On 24/10/16 19:55, rickman wrote: >>>>> On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>>>>> On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >>>>>>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing >>>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, >>>>>>>>>> BMP or >>>>>>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, >>>>>>>>>> arrows >>>>>>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>>>>>>> "free >>>>>>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in >>>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open >>>>>>>>> source? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the >>>>>>>>> wayside to >>>>>>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>>>>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>>>>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. >>>>>>>>> But no >>>>>>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new >>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how >>>>>>> it would >>>>>>> work with filters and such for my regular email. >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for >>>>>> everything else) access. >>>>> >>>>> Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I >>>>> expect the >>>>> internals to work the same. >>>> >>>> So am I, and I don't care, respectively. >>>> >>>> IMAP keeps a copy of the emails on my machine (in case >>>> google disappears), and leaves the original on the google >>>> server. Occasionally I the gmail web interface when doing >>>> more complex searches. >>>> >>>> POP3 copies the files to my machines and deletes them >>>> on the server. >>> >>> Yes, I'm familiar with the two. But that isn't the user interface. >>> All email >>> programs use one or the other or either of the protocols. But they have >>> different user interfaces. >> >> The GUIs are the same. The semantics are /slightly/ >> different, but that's directly understandable from >> the high-level POP3/IMAP philosophy of where the >> files are stored. > > At this point I think we are not communicating. I am talking about the user > interface of an email program. I've never seen two the same. I think you are > still talking about the protocols although I don't know how you can relate the > protocol to a user interface. Sigh. GUI=what you see. Semantics=what happens when you interact with the GUI. I repeat: the GUIs are the same for Seamonkey and Thunderbird, for IMAP and POP3. The principal difference between IMAP and POP3 is that in IMAP the messages are stored and synced between your machine and the email server. There is thus, *of* *necessity*, a *semantic* difference between the two. The semantic differences do *not* appear in the GUI operations, widgets, etc, and can only be *seen* in almost imperceptible and unimportant differences to do with copying messages. Try it. In TB, create two accounts and set the server settings to POP3 and IMAP. Have a look at the GUIs: they are the same. > My point is all email programs work without the user knowing anything about the > protocol. It has little impact on the user interface other than error and/or > status messages. Eudora gives a bit more info by showing the several stages > involved in getting the email, but that is not central to the user interface. Yes. What's the problem? The IMAP and POP3 GUIs are the same. >>>>> At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work >>>>> alike, >>>>> Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was >>>>> little >>>>> benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, >>>>>> which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring >>>>>> from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox >>>>>> file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Eudora is a great program, but >>>>>>> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >>>>>> >>>>>> ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, >>>>>> with all attachments in the same directory. If two >>>>>> attachments had the same name, you lost the first, >>>>>> doh! >>>>> >>>>> No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to the >>>>> subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. >>>>> >>>>> The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful >>>>> files >>>>> elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place >>>>> the numbers >>>>> get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. >>>>> Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. >>>> >>>> Keeping them in mbox format avoids splitting them up, >>>> avoids fiddling with filename suffixes, and multiple >>>> entirely different tools can read the same format. If >>>> I want to extract a single message including attachments, >>>> then I simply select it and copy it to a folder, and >>>> hey presto there it is. >>> >>> I'm not familiar with mbox format, but then this is anotehr >>> implementation >>> detail that a user won't be aware of. I assume you are saying Eudora >>> didn't do >>> the best job on this feature. >>> >>> >>>> I couldn't cope with Eudora's complexity for something >>>> simple like that. >>> >>> Complexity??? What's complex? >>> >>> >>>> The only disadvantage is that my gmail inbox contains >>>> 10034 messages, and the mbox file is 890MB. Seamonkey >>>> has no problems whatsoever (Thunderbird did; that's why >>>> I swapped) >>> >>> I use T-bird for newsgroups and it's my calendar. Both have some >>> issues, but >>> mostly I find the user interface to be a little awkward. I find it >>> freezes for >>> some seconds periodically, even while typing. There is no need for >>> that really. >> >> Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it >> is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. >> That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, >> and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives >> such as Eudora. >> >> I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly >> the same problem, but it doesn't. > > I was just going to ask... > > >> Of course, when I compress the mbox (before archiving >> it) that account freezes while the 1GB file is copied >> at 50MB/s. Other accounts and newsgroups keep working, >> so I assume a degree of multithreading. >> >> >>> I didn't realize Seamonkey was much different from T-bird. What would >>> it take >>> to switch? Could I port all the emails I have used on T-bird and the >>> account >>> setups including the newsgroup stuff? >> >> Yes, with 99.5% probability. I suspect you could >> flip between the two on the same directory tree, >> but prudence dictates copying the directory tree. >> On my machine that is >> ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/k7xa5cev.default/ >> Note the similarity in naming conventions! >> >> Download seamonkey, copy tree, try it, see >> what you think. > > Maybe I will. Does it have anything like Lightning for a calendar program? No idea what that is, I use tkremind. But see http://tinyurl.com/jn7rlfbArticle: 159413
rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: > This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in "free > speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making > money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? What's odd is the way it's built for Windows, and the solution to run on Linux or Mac is to use WINE. But it's implemented in wxPython, which is a cross-platform library. So it should be straightforward to run natively on Mac and Linux. Maybe the author doesn't have a system to test, but I'm sure the 'open source community' (whoever that might be) could help out with that. TheoArticle: 159414
On 10/25/2016 3:46 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: > On 25/10/16 03:19, rickman wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 8:19 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>> On 25/10/16 00:49, rickman wrote: >>>> On 10/24/2016 5:26 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>>>> On 24/10/16 19:55, rickman wrote: >>>>>> On 10/24/2016 2:45 PM, Tom Gardner wrote: >>>>>>> On 24/10/16 19:02, rickman wrote: >>>>>>>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing >>>>>>>>>>> software >>>>>>>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>>>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, >>>>>>>>>>> BMP or >>>>>>>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, >>>>>>>>>>> arrows >>>>>>>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not >>>>>>>>>> as in >>>>>>>>>> "free >>>>>>>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in >>>>>>>>>> making >>>>>>>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open >>>>>>>>>> source? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the >>>>>>>>>> wayside to >>>>>>>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would >>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't >>>>>>>>>> think I >>>>>>>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop >>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. >>>>>>>>>> But no >>>>>>>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new >>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used >>>>>>>> to how >>>>>>>> it would >>>>>>>> work with filters and such for my regular email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly the same way, with either IMAP (for gmail) or POP (for >>>>>>> everything else) access. >>>>>> >>>>>> Whatever that means. I'm talking about the user interface. I >>>>>> expect the >>>>>> internals to work the same. >>>>> >>>>> So am I, and I don't care, respectively. >>>>> >>>>> IMAP keeps a copy of the emails on my machine (in case >>>>> google disappears), and leaves the original on the google >>>>> server. Occasionally I the gmail web interface when doing >>>>> more complex searches. >>>>> >>>>> POP3 copies the files to my machines and deletes them >>>>> on the server. >>>> >>>> Yes, I'm familiar with the two. But that isn't the user interface. >>>> All email >>>> programs use one or the other or either of the protocols. But they >>>> have >>>> different user interfaces. >>> >>> The GUIs are the same. The semantics are /slightly/ >>> different, but that's directly understandable from >>> the high-level POP3/IMAP philosophy of where the >>> files are stored. >> >> At this point I think we are not communicating. I am talking about >> the user >> interface of an email program. I've never seen two the same. I think >> you are >> still talking about the protocols although I don't know how you can >> relate the >> protocol to a user interface. > > Sigh. GUI=what you see. Semantics=what happens > when you interact with the GUI. > > I repeat: the GUIs are the same for Seamonkey > and Thunderbird, for IMAP and POP3. I have no idea what you are talking about "for IMAP and POP3". I am talking about the overall functioning of the email program. I have no idea why you keep focusing on the protocols. I won't bother to continue to talk past each other. > The principal difference between IMAP and POP3 is that > in IMAP the messages are stored and synced between > your machine and the email server. There is thus, *of* > *necessity*, a *semantic* difference between the two. > > The semantic differences do *not* appear in the GUI > operations, widgets, etc, and can only be *seen* > in almost imperceptible and unimportant differences > to do with copying messages. > > Try it. In TB, create two accounts and set the server > settings to POP3 and IMAP. Have a look at the GUIs: > they are the same. I've never said there is any difference between the user interfaces as far as the protocols go. I don't know what you are going on about. >> My point is all email programs work without the user knowing anything >> about the >> protocol. It has little impact on the user interface other than error >> and/or >> status messages. Eudora gives a bit more info by showing the several >> stages >> involved in getting the email, but that is not central to the user >> interface. > > Yes. What's the problem? The IMAP and POP3 > GUIs are the same. I'm not talking about IMAP and POP3. I'm talking about different email programs. >>>>>> At one point there was an effort to morph T-bird into a Eudora work >>>>>> alike, >>>>>> Penelope. I think it was never completed. Probably found there was >>>>>> little >>>>>> benefit compared to the huge amount of work involved. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Caveat: I haven't used TBird recently, but I use Seamonkey, >>>>>>> which is effectively the same thing. Certainly transferring >>>>>>> from one to the other was trivial: just use the same mbox >>>>>>> file (or a copy if you are feeling slightly pessimistic) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Eudora is a great program, but >>>>>>>> some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ISTR Eudora kept attachments separate from the email, >>>>>>> with all attachments in the same directory. If two >>>>>>> attachments had the same name, you lost the first, >>>>>>> doh! >>>>>> >>>>>> No, duplicate file names happen all the time. They add a digit to >>>>>> the >>>>>> subsequent attachment file name and note that in the email. >>>>>> >>>>>> The problem I have is trying to cull the directory. If I move useful >>>>>> files >>>>>> elsewhere the email points to a null file. If I leave them in place >>>>>> the numbers >>>>>> get huge over years! It is nearly impossible to delete all the crap. >>>>>> Bazillions of tiny files are used in graphic HTML emails. >>>>> >>>>> Keeping them in mbox format avoids splitting them up, >>>>> avoids fiddling with filename suffixes, and multiple >>>>> entirely different tools can read the same format. If >>>>> I want to extract a single message including attachments, >>>>> then I simply select it and copy it to a folder, and >>>>> hey presto there it is. >>>> >>>> I'm not familiar with mbox format, but then this is anotehr >>>> implementation >>>> detail that a user won't be aware of. I assume you are saying Eudora >>>> didn't do >>>> the best job on this feature. >>>> >>>> >>>>> I couldn't cope with Eudora's complexity for something >>>>> simple like that. >>>> >>>> Complexity??? What's complex? >>>> >>>> >>>>> The only disadvantage is that my gmail inbox contains >>>>> 10034 messages, and the mbox file is 890MB. Seamonkey >>>>> has no problems whatsoever (Thunderbird did; that's why >>>>> I swapped) >>>> >>>> I use T-bird for newsgroups and it's my calendar. Both have some >>>> issues, but >>>> mostly I find the user interface to be a little awkward. I find it >>>> freezes for >>>> some seconds periodically, even while typing. There is no need for >>>> that really. >>> >>> Long pauses are what made me swap. IIRC, and it >>> is a long time ago, TB hit a cliff with large files. >>> That happened suddenly from one TB release to another, >>> and it is the reason I started looking at alternatives >>> such as Eudora. >>> >>> I see no reason why Seamonkey shouldn't have exactly >>> the same problem, but it doesn't. >> >> I was just going to ask... >> >> >>> Of course, when I compress the mbox (before archiving >>> it) that account freezes while the 1GB file is copied >>> at 50MB/s. Other accounts and newsgroups keep working, >>> so I assume a degree of multithreading. >>> >>> >>>> I didn't realize Seamonkey was much different from T-bird. What would >>>> it take >>>> to switch? Could I port all the emails I have used on T-bird and the >>>> account >>>> setups including the newsgroup stuff? >>> >>> Yes, with 99.5% probability. I suspect you could >>> flip between the two on the same directory tree, >>> but prudence dictates copying the directory tree. >>> On my machine that is >>> ~/.mozilla/seamonkey/k7xa5cev.default/ >>> Note the similarity in naming conventions! >>> >>> Download seamonkey, copy tree, try it, see >>> what you think. >> >> Maybe I will. Does it have anything like Lightning for a calendar >> program? > > No idea what that is, I use tkremind. > But see http://tinyurl.com/jn7rlfb Lightning used to be a calendar plugin for T-bird (maybe it still is), now it comes with T-bird. -- Rick CArticle: 159415
On 10/25/2016 8:40 AM, Theo Markettos wrote: > rickman <gnuarm@gmail.com> wrote: >> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in "free >> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? > > What's odd is the way it's built for Windows, and the solution to run on > Linux or Mac is to use WINE. But it's implemented in wxPython, which is a > cross-platform library. So it should be straightforward to run natively on > Mac and Linux. Maybe the author doesn't have a system to test, but I'm sure > the 'open source community' (whoever that might be) could help out with > that. But it's not open source, or did I miss something? -- Rick CArticle: 159416
On 10/24/2016 1:02 PM, rickman wrote: > On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>> >>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>> >>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing software >>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>> >>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, BMP or >>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>> >>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, arrows >>>> and labels (see attached images). >>> >>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in "free >>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>> >>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the wayside to >>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only use >>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>> >>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. But no >>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new machine. > > Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how it > would work with filters and such for my regular email. Eudora is a > great program, but some day I won't be able to use it anymore. > I ended having to stop using Eudora, I love it but my ISP started using 1024 bit Certificates and Eudora could not handle that so I could not get my mail. I hated leaving it it works exactly like I wanted it to, now I have no choice but to use Thunderbird. For a while I used a Linux machine for my mail and I used Evolution and liked it quite a bit but then they made drastic changes to it and actually took out features, My Mac Email was based on Evolution and I liked it too but they followed the changes in the Linux version and I was disappointed. I hear Thunderbird is going away, I'm not sure what to do then. -- Cecil - k5nwaArticle: 159417
On Friday, April 27, 2012 at 1:52:27 AM UTC-7, etantonio wrote: > Good morning, > it is the first time I use a XILINX Platform Cable USB II together > with Windows 7 , > the problem is that the cable is not recognized and I've always the > answer: > " WARNING:iMPACT - The cable selected is not avaliable, please > select a different one. > Connecting to cable (Usb Port - USB21). > Checking cable driver. > Driver file xusb_xp2.sys found. > Driver version: src=2301, dest=2301. > Driver windrvr6.sys version = 10.2.1.0.Cable connection failed. > " > the board I want to program is the Spartan 3A DSP 1800A but I don't > think is a board problem, > simply the cable is not recognized from windows 7. > I'm using Impact 13.4 (nt64) version 0.87 XD > > How can I solve this problem? > Thanks for your help > > Antonio > www.etantonio.it hi all, i have used windows 7 driver for windows 8,with steps above and it work just fine..Nice..Article: 159418
On 25/10/16 18:08, Cecil Bayona wrote: > On 10/24/2016 1:02 PM, rickman wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>> >>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>> >>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing software >>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>> >>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, BMP or >>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>> >>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, arrows >>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>> >>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>> "free >>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>>> >>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the wayside to >>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only use >>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>> >>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. But no >>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new machine. >> >> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how it >> would work with filters and such for my regular email. Eudora is a >> great program, but some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >> > I ended having to stop using Eudora, I love it but my ISP started using > 1024 bit Certificates and Eudora could not handle that so I could not > get my mail. I hated leaving it it works exactly like I wanted it to, > now I have no choice but to use Thunderbird. > > For a while I used a Linux machine for my mail and I used Evolution and > liked it quite a bit but then they made drastic changes to it and > actually took out features, My Mac Email was based on Evolution and I > liked it too but they followed the changes in the Linux version and I > was disappointed. > > I hear Thunderbird is going away, I'm not sure what to do then. > Thunderbird is not "going away". That was a rumour started (intentionally for scandal effect, or just through incompetence - I am not sure) by an online IT magazine, and copied widely. The Thunderbird development group are looking for a new "home", and trying to leave the Mozilla Foundation. This is not anyone being thrown out, or a disagreement, nor is it the end of Thunderbird. It is simply that the Mozilla folk, the Thunderbird folk and the Firefox folk have realised that keeping Thunderbird and Firefox development tied together in the same place hinders both projects. Moving Thunderbird to something like the Apache Foundation or The Document Foundation (home of LibreOffice) would be better for Thunderbird development.Article: 159419
On 10/26/2016 7:20 AM, David Brown wrote: > On 25/10/16 18:08, Cecil Bayona wrote: >> On 10/24/2016 1:02 PM, rickman wrote: >>> On 10/24/2016 11:33 AM, Cecil Bayona wrote: >>>> On 10/24/2016 10:17 AM, rickman wrote: >>>>> On 10/21/2016 5:48 PM, wavemediagram@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> May I suggest Waveme? >>>>>> >>>>>> waveme.weebly.com >>>>>> >>>>>> It is a new, free, GUI-based, digital timing diagram drawing software >>>>>> for Windows (and Linux/MacOS via Wine). >>>>>> >>>>>> Waveme is intended primarily for documentation purposes, >>>>>> where a diagram can be exported (stored) to an image file (PNG, BMP or >>>>>> TIFF) or a PDF document. >>>>>> >>>>>> Waveme can be used to draw waveforms (signals and buses), gaps, arrows >>>>>> and labels (see attached images). >>>>> >>>>> This is "free" software in the sense of "free beer", but not as in >>>>> "free >>>>> speech", right? It doesn't appear that there is an interest in making >>>>> money from this, at least not for now. Why not make it open source? >>>>> >>>>> I've seen too many special purpose graphical tools go by the wayside to >>>>> consider spending time to learn a tool like this that I would only use >>>>> sporadically. If this tool ends up with no support I don't think I >>>>> would want to be using it unless the source were available. >>>>> >>>>> I have an email program like that which I don't want to stop using >>>>> because it works well and I'd have a learning curve to switch. But no >>>>> more bug fixes and one of these days it won't port to the new machine. >>> >>> Yeah. I use T-bird for newsgroups, but I've never gotten used to how it >>> would work with filters and such for my regular email. Eudora is a >>> great program, but some day I won't be able to use it anymore. >>> >> I ended having to stop using Eudora, I love it but my ISP started using >> 1024 bit Certificates and Eudora could not handle that so I could not >> get my mail. I hated leaving it it works exactly like I wanted it to, >> now I have no choice but to use Thunderbird. >> >> For a while I used a Linux machine for my mail and I used Evolution and >> liked it quite a bit but then they made drastic changes to it and >> actually took out features, My Mac Email was based on Evolution and I >> liked it too but they followed the changes in the Linux version and I >> was disappointed. >> >> I hear Thunderbird is going away, I'm not sure what to do then. >> > > Thunderbird is not "going away". That was a rumour started > (intentionally for scandal effect, or just through incompetence - I am > not sure) by an online IT magazine, and copied widely. > > The Thunderbird development group are looking for a new "home", and > trying to leave the Mozilla Foundation. This is not anyone being thrown > out, or a disagreement, nor is it the end of Thunderbird. It is simply > that the Mozilla folk, the Thunderbird folk and the Firefox folk have > realised that keeping Thunderbird and Firefox development tied together > in the same place hinders both projects. Moving Thunderbird to > something like the Apache Foundation or The Document Foundation (home of > LibreOffice) would be better for Thunderbird development. > > I hope so, Thunderbird is somewhat close to Eudora, and works well for me, I have emails going back to 1995 that I keep for reference. I went from Eudora to Penelope a Eudora Thunderbird mix, to Thunderbird and was able to migrate my emails, and tags, I would hate to have to change again. I'm not sure if Thunderbird has changed or those upgrades makes it different but right now Thunderbird is very close to what Eudora was. It has good Rules feature, good search save features, and handles multiple accounts and newsgroups well. The one improvement would be in the newsgroup account to be able to scan and delete unwanted junk, it works well when manually done but will not work automatically to delete post from some trolls. -- Cecil - k5nwaArticle: 159420
Hi All, I created the TimingAnalyzer a long time ago. In the years that have past, the interest in this kind of tool has decreased. I think for the following few reasons. Engineers use tools from the vendors for timing analysis There are other tools that can be used to just draw timing diagrams. If I continue development, I want to focus on the following: Displaying multiple time scales in one diagram for mixed Analog and Digital diagrams Creating RTL source code from timing diagrams Creating SystemVerilog/UVM verification source doc from timing diagrams Improved VCD support Improved Python scripting support I would appreciate your opinions and comments. Thanks, Dan Fabrizio www.timing-diagrams.comArticle: 159421
> I would appreciate your opinions and comments. What immediately comes to my mind is getting the absolute file path of the .tim file to be able to use the location of that file as storage for output from python scripts. I use your tool quite often to build vhdl testbenches. So far I use the cpp c-pre-processor to be able to include the vhdl output of the python script into the testbench vhdl. -- SvennArticle: 159422
On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 2:10:20 PM UTC-6, Kevin Neilson wrote: > Update: I found a solution in the "Altera Synthesis Cookbook" and it see= ms to be the scheme I described above, but implementing the semaphore bits = as FFs instead of distributed RAM. I'd need about 2048 semaphore bits, so = implementing that in a distributed RAM would probably be advantageous. You= can do a 64-bit quad port (1 wr, 3 rd) in a 4-LUT slice, so I'd need 2048/= 64*4*2 =3D 256 LUTs to do 2 2048-bit quad-port distributed RAMs. (Add in ~= 10 slices for 32->1 muxes.) Update 2: I came up with a better solution than the Altera Cookbook. The = semaphore bits are stored partly in a separate blockRAM and partly in the m= ain data blockRAMs. Then there is very little logic out in the fabric--jus= t the muxes for the two read ports. Too bad there isn't an app note on thi= s.Article: 159423
On 01.11.2016 23:16, Kevin Neilson wrote: > On Friday, October 23, 2015 at 2:10:20 PM UTC-6, Kevin Neilson wrote: >> Update: I found a solution in the "Altera Synthesis Cookbook" and it seems to be the scheme I described above, but implementing the semaphore bits as FFs instead of distributed RAM. I'd need about 2048 semaphore bits, so implementing that in a distributed RAM would probably be advantageous. You can do a 64-bit quad port (1 wr, 3 rd) in a 4-LUT slice, so I'd need 2048/64*4*2 = 256 LUTs to do 2 2048-bit quad-port distributed RAMs. (Add in ~10 slices for 32->1 muxes.) > > Update 2: I came up with a better solution than the Altera Cookbook. The semaphore bits are stored partly in a separate blockRAM and partly in the main data blockRAMs. Then there is very little logic out in the fabric--just the muxes for the two read ports. Too bad there isn't an app note on this. > Again, why do you need four BRAMs? Perhaps I'm stupid, but I don't see what can be achieved with four BRAMs that cannot be achieved with two, if it's correct that "[h]aving multiple read ports is no problem". Or is it just how you solve the problem of having multiple read ports? Like, you have two BRAMs A and B, and a semaphore array. The writer A writes to A and points the semaphore of address x to A. The writer B does the same for B. You read simultaneously A and B and the semaphore for address x. GeneArticle: 159424
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/03/study-reveals-how-particles-that-seed-clouds-in-the-amazon-are-produced/ Not all science research is true (roughly half) but this one is great. Trees dump gaseous organics into the air (presumably at some expense) and those things go high, become nanoparticles, get swept down by turbulence, and become raindrop seeds. So all the climate models up to now have been wrong. They will again. Nice planet. -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc lunatic fringe electronics
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