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Ken Smith wrote: > In article <43D2AA36.6FE6260@hotmail.com>, > Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote: > [... me ...] > >> The above plus the fact that these days it can get all around the world > >> before the first person dies of it. > > > >Same as last year, the year before and so on for many past decades > >etc... etc..... > > > >Why 2005/6 ? > > We have detected a flu that is unusually nasty. It isn't the same as last > year. People have worried for a long time about diseases get around the > world easily. Now there is one that looks like it could do it. I was under the impression that H5N1 had been around for quite some time. GrahamArticle: 95276
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message news:nPwAf.12765$_S7.1327@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > I guess my trusty Aristo-Scholar VS slide rule must have been miffed > about that. But it keeps blessing me by never displaying 'low battery'. Thanks!. An old friends name whom I'd long forgotten. Just had a pleasurable hour rummaging through those slide rule websites. Used that Aristo for years but had absolutely no remorse in ditching it the moment I'd saved up enough for my first calculator. johnArticle: 95277
In article <CtwAf.12759$_S7.2836@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> writes >Hello Chris, > >> >> The C.Eng requires a degree, More to the point a suitable degree from a >> recognised university. >> > >That's just one of the problems. Here in the US they often require ABET >compliance of your course work. For many older engineers that is not >quite possible because even top notch universities didn't have some ABET >cert 20+ years ago. They usually are sensible about that. They look at the time and place of the degree for older engineers. > Also, you'd exclude pretty much all foreign >universities. That is hardcore discrimination and can (and would be) >litigated. No it wouldn't. Not in the UK. There are plenty overseas universities that are recognised. Even US ones. OTOH the US is usually quite good and not recognising anything foreign. >> You also need three supporters who are also C.Eng and are prepared to >> sign off on your work experience. >> > >That's the 2nd problem: There is no critical mass here. The classical >chicken and egg situation. I know a whopping two licensed engineers but >both in the wrong field since they are civil engineers. I don't know any >licensed EE personally (ok, if I make it to one of Jim's parties some >day I would know at least one) and have never come across one in my >work. So, where would someone like me or all my colleagues obtain three >supporters? This is sometimes a problem in the UK. The C.Eng is usually obtianed via your own institute. For SW and electronics it would be the IEE or BCS and you would know people in these. In the US I assume it would be the IEEE. They can usually provide suitable people you can talk to. >>>and only some bureaucrats get to >>>decide who will have a job and who doesn't? >> >> All these "bureaucrats" will be at least degree qualified with a lot of >> relevant experience behind them. No one on the panel is not a qualified >> Engineer. >> > >But not qualified in my field. Yes. EXACTLY Qualified in your field!!! > What do they know about medical >electronics? Virtually everything. The people who asses your application and do the interview... (I forgot to mention that apart from the academic qualifications, the relevant experience and additional training there is also an interview) will be in the same field as yourself. In your case medical electronics. In the case of a friend of mine it was a bit awkward as the top person in his field was also one of his sponsors. So he was not able to do the interview for his candidate. . > Sure, they could test me on how to design bridges and I >would still remember the basics of structural load and stress >calculations. Problem is, I do not design bridges. What have bridges got to do with it? Unless you are a Civil Engineer applying via the Institute of Civil Engineers. >>>IMHO, if someone has a >>>degree from a university that shall be enough of a qualification. What >>>difference would some license make? >> >> >> Well the C.Eng requires the relevant degree from a known university PLUS >> several relevant experience plus continued, structured, on the job >> training. So if the C.Eng is used as a level for the license all the >> licensed Engineers will be degree qualified and at least 5 years >> relevant experience. >> > >And how would the others get a job? How would you prove experience if >you never worked under, for or next to a licensed engineer because there >were none? In the UK there are enough for this to not be too much of a problem. >> IT is possible to get a C.Eng without a degree but the amount of >> relevant experience goes up a LOT (about a decade I think) and they do >> expect suitable training and pre-degree qualifications etc > >That's scary. Passing those tests doesn't take much. But the thought of >someone designing medical equipment without truly understanding EMI >mechanisms, dielectric breakdown scenarios or regulations such as IEC601 >would outright frighten me. It scares me too but at the moment anyone can do medical stuff at the moment. However in the case where there is no degree you need to prove a lot more *relevant* experience and I thin a 10K word paper to support that is formally assessed and the three supporters and your work record signed off which as to be a LOT better than at the moment when any one can do the medical work. >> In theory you should only have the Good People licensed but like doctors >> some Good People don't manage to pass the exams (brilliant but freak out >> at an exam) and a few Bad People who get though but like doctors and >> architects it works 95% of the time. >> > >That's the theory. In practice decades of licensing rules have IMHO >failed to prove that they improve anything in electrical engineering. I >have even read a statement of a licensing body admitting to that. If the licence became a requirement it would improve things. Just like it has in all the other professions where it is required. the problem is that as licensing is not required most do not bother (workers or employers) Once the majority are in the system then it will improve. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ /\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org www.phaedsys.org \/\/\ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/Article: 95278
Michael A. Terrell wrote: > bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > > > > You may see it as bullshit, but I guess your discrimination has to be > > totally shot if you can vote for Dubya. > > > Once more you are telling blatant lies. I couldn't vote for either > candidate. I had moved not long before the election and I was stuck in > bed for several weeks while registration for the the elections was > open. Does your ignorance know no bounds? I apologise for the error. > > Found any weapons of mass destruction recently? > > Only your glaring ignorance, which is only overshadowed by your > fellow Australian Phil Allison. Tell us all, Bill. Why is it the > biggest assholes on usenet are from Australia? Beats me. We do have a culture of comical abuse - Robert Graves commented on it back in the 1930's, and mentioned such neat tricks as infix swearing - as in "abso-bloody-lutely". And since when is John S. Dyson Australian? Phil Allison has got the abuse down pat, but he can't seem to manage intentionally comical. As for my glaring ignorance - at least it hasn't killed anybody recently, which more or less disqualifies it as a weapon of mass descruction, while your lot's bizarre misconceptions seem to have done for a couple of thousand of your own troops and some hundred thousand (mostly inoffensive) Iraqis. -- Bill Sloman, NijmegenArticle: 95279
John Larkin wrote: > On 20 Jan 2006 22:06:18 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: > >> > >> > >> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying > >> >to follow the foolish american social model. > >> > >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. So far, we > >> don't have that problem in the USA. > > > >Dear me. You have yet to prove that Europe is declining. > > > >If it were you'd have to prove that the decline was due to the failure > >of the native Europeans to reproduce at the replacement rate - most of > >us happen to think that the current population density would be > >unsustainably high if we weren't importing lots of stuff, so we aren't > >too worried about the prospect of a declining population twenty-odd > >years from now. > > > >And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have > >in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech > >Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does > >appreciably better. > > > >Persistent juvenile malnutrition isn't good for intellectual > >development, and we do seem to see a lot of evidence of this on this > >user group. > > Bill, you have evolved into a tedious ritual insult-recycling machine. > That sounds like decline to me. So you can't find an answer to the juvenile malnutrition statistics - you seem to be declining into a sore loser ... -- Bill Sloman, NijmegenArticle: 95280
<yusufilker@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1137862857.742434.245230@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a sunny day (21 Jan 2006 05:18:15 -0800) it happened >> yadurajj@yahoo.com >> wrote in <1137849495.660143.123320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>: >> >> >Can I use an FPGA to control a programmable pwer supply..if so are >> >there any such implementations already available..or if it is a >> >feasible idea...any feedback greatly appreciated.. >> >thnks >> > >> Eh... maybe wrong... you can use a FPGA you can use even a trained >> monkey. >> If the result is what you want depends in the case of the FPGA on the >> programming, same for the monkey. >> >> And on the interface too.... monkey should be able to twiddle knobs, >> FPGA output should be compatible with power supply control input. > > You do not need an fpga for this but > > With PWM , simple closed loop control and a LC filter can solve your > problem. > A FPGA adds 7 segment display, a few buttons to adjust voltage manually > or > even RS-232 control is very feasable. > ok you have a fpga then you can make it multiple output power supply. > > Just for fun add sinusoidal outputs to make it universal.(Again PWM) > > yusuf Could do the same with a pic or even a cpldArticle: 95281
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:04:21 +0100, "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net>
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><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message
>> And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have
>> in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech
>> Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does
>> appreciably better.
>
>Bill, as much as I admire you, please come here to Slovenia and show me
>how we're doing worse than say Greece, Portugal, Spain or any other
>EU country in terms of malnutrition.
Bill, himself, is so malnourished that he's demented ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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Article: 95282"Eric Smith" <eric@brouhaha.com> wrote in message news:qhmzhzslys.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com... > "Peter Alfke" <peter@xilinx.com> writes: >> I have struggled for decades to come up with enticing demo projects for >> digital circuits, and I have made my rules: >> It must be something that cannot be done with just a microprocessor. >> That means it must be something fast. Audio, video, radio, robotics >> come to mind. > > What? No traffic lights and vending machines? :-) > > It's always entertaining when people pop up in various newsgroups > (including this one), wanting help with their vending machine project, > and insisting that it isn't homework. But why would you set one of these as an assignment as there are lots of such projects on the net? AlexArticle: 95283
larwe wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > fellow Australian Phil Allison. Tell us all, Bill. Why is it the > > biggest assholes on usenet are from Australia? > > Gee, it's nice to be excellent at something. Never heard us described > as the biggest assholes on Usenet before. Not all of you, but the ones who are seem to be competing for the title of "Asshole of the universe". BTW, I didn't know you were from Australia, and a lot of other normal people must be from there, but the real idiots mention it fairly often. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 95284
Steve at fivetrees wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news:43D289B6.984972F4@earthlink.net... > >> > > >> > Now, this is funny! You talk about literacy, and then you get the > >> > name wrong. It is Doctor Seuss, who's real name was Ted Geisel. > >> > >> ... or indeed "*whose* name was" etc. > >> > > Yes, I missed it. On the other hand I was limping between two > > buildings and working on five computers at the time. I had stopped for > > a quick lunch and didn't take time to proofread it. I just hit "Send" > > as I hurried back out the door. > > Apologies - just struck me as ironic in context ;). > > Steve > (also limping, and also working on five computers) > http://www.fivetrees.com No problem. I am starting to lose my close-up eyesight to diabetes, and have to depend on the spell checker. I have severe carpal tunnel (The VA and Shands hospital doctors tell me the surgery won't help me) so I have to type with just a couple fingers. That causes me a lot of spelling errors. I get so busy trying to make sure the spelling is correct that I sometimes forget to check the syntax. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 95285
Joerg wrote: > Hello Chris, > >> >> The C.Eng requires a degree, More to the point a suitable degree from a >> recognised university. > > > That's just one of the problems. Here in the US they often require ABET > compliance of your course work. For many older engineers that is not > quite possible because even top notch universities didn't have some ABET > cert 20+ years ago. Also, you'd exclude pretty much all foreign > universities. That is hardcore discrimination and can (and would be) > litigated. > > >> You also need three supporters who are also C.Eng and are prepared to >> sign off on your work experience. > > > That's the 2nd problem: There is no critical mass here. The classical > chicken and egg situation. I know a whopping two licensed engineers but > both in the wrong field since they are civil engineers. I don't know any > licensed EE personally (ok, if I make it to one of Jim's parties some > day I would know at least one) and have never come across one in my > work. So, where would someone like me or all my colleagues obtain three > supporters? > >> >>> and only some bureaucrats get to decide who will have a job and who >>> doesn't? >> >> >> All these "bureaucrats" will be at least degree qualified with a lot of >> relevant experience behind them. No one on the panel is not a qualified >> Engineer. > > > But not qualified in my field. What do they know about medical > electronics? Sure, they could test me on how to design bridges and I > would still remember the basics of structural load and stress > calculations. Problem is, I do not design bridges. > >> >>> IMHO, if someone has a degree from a university that shall be enough >>> of a qualification. What difference would some license make? >> >> >> >> Well the C.Eng requires the relevant degree from a known university PLUS >> several relevant experience plus continued, structured, on the job >> training. So if the C.Eng is used as a level for the license all the >> licensed Engineers will be degree qualified and at least 5 years >> relevant experience. > > > And how would the others get a job? How would you prove experience if > you never worked under, for or next to a licensed engineer because there > were none? > > >> IT is possible to get a C.Eng without a degree but the amount of >> relevant experience goes up a LOT (about a decade I think) and they do >> expect suitable training and pre-degree qualifications etc >> > > That's scary. Passing those tests doesn't take much. But the thought of > someone designing medical equipment without truly understanding EMI > mechanisms, dielectric breakdown scenarios or regulations such as IEC601 > would outright frighten me. > > >> In theory you should only have the Good People licensed but like doctors >> some Good People don't manage to pass the exams (brilliant but freak out >> at an exam) and a few Bad People who get though but like doctors and >> architects it works 95% of the time. >> > > > That's the theory. In practice decades of licensing rules have IMHO > failed to prove that they improve anything in electrical engineering. I > have even read a statement of a licensing body admitting to that. > > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.com A few points here: 1) You can obtain a PE license in any state that adheres to the NSPE guidelines without a degree if you have 20 years experience in the field. That invalidates your concern about ABET certification, since most engineering schools in the US have had the certification for the past 20 years. 2) Passing the test is only one of the wickets you need to pass through. At least as important as the test, is your references who ascribe to know your work and attest that it is worthy of a professional. 3) Finding the PE references is a little harder as an EE, but is not impossible. There's a good chance, for example, that a mechanical engineer in your firm has his PE and can truthfully sign off as being familiar with your work. If you have outside consultants doing work (not contractors, consultants) for your company, one or more of them will likely have a P.E. As a last resort, there is nothing stopping you from joining the local chapter of NSPE and getting friendly with the members. Many would be very interested in hearing about your work. They really are a likeable lot. :-) 4) Most states in the US DO REQUIRE someone on staff with a PE license if you are offering engineering services in any form to the public. If, as you signature suggests, you are a consultant offering design services, you DO NEED to have someone with a PE license on your staff in most of the 50 states. Some states prosecute that more aggressively than others. My state took all of about 6 months to find me after I hung my shingle out. In most cases, the state has the authority to issue a cease and desist order against you if you cannot prove you have a PE on staff. 5) Having a PE license doesn't give you carte blanche to go out and do stuff outside of your area of expertise. In fact, the code of ethics specifically states that you won't sign off on stuff that is not in your area of expertise. 6) Some of the medical firms I've dealt with specifically do require a PE on a project involving medical equipment that could potentially endanger a patient. I'm not sure if it is a regulatory requirement or not, but it was a requirement from somewhere. If you are working for a medical firm, ask around. I'll bet there is a PE involved somewhere in the project. Every medical project I've been involved with has had a PE directly involved with the project. 7) PE licensing is intended to protect the public by certifying that you have demonstrated competency as an engineer in your field. You needn't have the PE to do engineering work, but if the engineering services are offered to the public, someone with a PE has to be accountable for the work.Article: 95286
Joerg wrote:
>
> Hello Michael,
>
> >>Another book that I saw at a friend's house described radio frequencies
> >>as a "wondrous ether whose practical usage has yet to be determined".
> >>That was from the pre-cell phone days.
> >
> > How about the book titles and printing dates?
> >
>
> No idea. But I have a hunch that it was in the basement of my late
> father in law's house. In which case I should have it somewhere because
> nobody else was keen on tech books. When I find it I'll post.
>
> The other one is: Hanfland: "Der Neuzeitliche Maschinenbau", 1929.
> ("Modern Mechanical Engineering").
>
> Regards, Joerg
>
> http://www.analogconsultants.com
Thanks. I dig around at flea markets when I can get there to look
for early engineering texts. I wish I still had all the ones I collected
when i was in my early teens. I was reading EE textbooks at 14, and had
a nice collection, but most of my collection was gone when I got home
from serving in the US Army.
There is a "Friends of" the local branch of the county library
system, and most donated books end up being sold in their used book
store. I always miss he old electronics books, for some reason. This
is the land of the retirees, and a lot of old engineering books are in
the homes. Some get thrown out, while others end up in thrift stores.
If they don't sell quickly they are thrown away. I'm not well enough to
check with all of them, and it would probably take 60 hours a week to
dig through the unsorted bookshelves to find anything.
--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.
Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
Article: 95287Joerg wrote: > > Hello Chris, > > > ... Though we used electronic calculators which were just > > about affordable then. > > > > I still have my first calculator, at Texas SR-50. Got to restore it > though but I won't use it much because it's not RPN. Here is the weird > thing: TI called it "slide rule"! > > I guess my trusty Aristo-Scholar VS slide rule must have been miffed > about that. But it keeps blessing me by never displaying 'low battery'. > > Regards, Joerg > > http://www.analogconsultants.com Did you ever use those paper "Slide rules" that were made to calculate values for tuned circuits, or to design single layer coils? I still have the Electrovoice L/C calaculator, and may have the old Allied Electronics Coil calculator. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central FloridaArticle: 95288
I've never heard of anything like that for the Xilinx flow - although it may exist. It sure would be useful. My experience with Xilinx is that it wouldn't be integrated throughout the flow. You'd have to specify the option in XST, then again in MAP. And then I'm not sure if PAR and bitgen would be happy with dangling logic (I've seen bitgen error out because of the MAP stage not cutting out unused logic). Although I'm not a big Project Navigator user - maybe someone else here knows better. One thing you could do is pipeline the results of any logic you want to keep and put them all through some kind of reducing function (i.e. OR them all together) and assign the single bit result to a pin. Alternatively if you have a uP bus, assign the outputs to a read-only register. Hacks, I know, but it'll work.Article: 95289
On 21 Jan 2006 17:22:17 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > >John Larkin wrote: >> On 20 Jan 2006 22:06:18 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >> >> > >> >John Larkin wrote: >> >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying >> >> >to follow the foolish american social model. >> >> >> >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. So far, we >> >> don't have that problem in the USA. >> > >> >Dear me. You have yet to prove that Europe is declining. >> > >> >If it were you'd have to prove that the decline was due to the failure >> >of the native Europeans to reproduce at the replacement rate - most of >> >us happen to think that the current population density would be >> >unsustainably high if we weren't importing lots of stuff, so we aren't >> >too worried about the prospect of a declining population twenty-odd >> >years from now. >> > >> >And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have >> >in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech >> >Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does >> >appreciably better. >> > >> >Persistent juvenile malnutrition isn't good for intellectual >> >development, and we do seem to see a lot of evidence of this on this >> >user group. >> >> Bill, you have evolved into a tedious ritual insult-recycling machine. >> That sounds like decline to me. > >So you can't find an answer to the juvenile malnutrition statistics - I see a lot of fat kids, but precious few skinny ones. >you seem to be declining into a sore loser ... I'm not aware of losing anything of value. JohnArticle: 95290
Bryan Hackney wrote: > bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > Bryan Hackney wrote: > > > >>SioL wrote: > >> > >>>"Lanarcam" <lanarcam1@yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:1137771805.545861.31220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>> > >>> > >>>>Bryan Hackney wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>>And, um, what has Africa ever contributed to the world? > >>>> > >>>>No idea? > >>> > >>> > >>>Homo Sapiens? > >>> > >>>Supposedly the first man or woman came from there. > >>> > >> > >>That's not certain, > > > > > > Try looking at the evidence from the DNA, dummy. > > Make some sense, asshole. A response that emphasises your lack of education, anus. > >>but we do know where Newton, Galileo and Chebyshev are from. > > > > > > Not really - we haven't got DNA from any of them, but we can be pretty > > confident that their ancestors came out of Africa. > > > > Are you saying that an African's DNA is somehow a precursor to yours? And yours, and everybody else's. Those Africans lived in Africa more than 100,000 years ago - how much more is subject to debate. > Are you a Nazi? No. Check with Jim Thompson. He calls me a socialist - and is ignorant enough to think that he is calling me communist by implication. > I stated obvious facts about African culture, and you start talking about DNA. Odd, that. You produce a few idiotic statements about human culture - the sort of racist rubbish that the Nazi's used to peddle - then extend that to make an absurd claim about Africa in general, which I happily sent up, and now you think "I" might be a Nazi. Go away and learn something. Darwin's Law of Evolution might be a good place to start. -- Bill Sloman, NijmegenArticle: 95291
SioL wrote: > <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message > > And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have > > in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech > > Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does > > appreciably better. > > Bill, as much as I admire you, please come here to Slovenia and show me > how we're doing worse than say Greece, Portugal, Spain or any other > EU country in terms of malnutrition. Don't argue with me - argue with http://www.childinfo.org/areas/malnutrition/wasting.php Former Yugoslavia is cleaning up after a nasty series of civil wars, so it isn't surprising that your welfare system is in worse shape than the U.S.A., but we can hope that you will be back up to the European norm - no juvenile malnutrition (bar a few vicitims of lunatic parents) - in a few more years. Romania is stll recovering from Ceausescu and we can hope that they will do as well. The Czech Republic and Hungary are a bit more puzzling. I'm worndering how much of their malnutrition is confined to the Gypsy minority. http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/article.php?id=56 -- Bill Sloman, NijmegenArticle: 95292
Can you please point me to the correct app note? The ones I have seen refer to storing and reading user data via the FPGA, using extra internal logic, but I don't remember seeing anything that describes reading back user data directly from the PROM via its JTAG port when an FPGA is not present. Thanks, Antti.Lukats@xilant.com wrote: > yes there is xilinx appnote on this as wellArticle: 95293
Jim Thompson wrote: > On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 01:04:21 +0100, "SioL" <Sio_spam_L@same.net> > wrote: > > ><bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in message > >> And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have > >> in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech > >> Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does > >> appreciably better. > > > >Bill, as much as I admire you, please come here to Slovenia and show me > >how we're doing worse than say Greece, Portugal, Spain or any other > >EU country in terms of malnutrition. > > Bill, himself, is so malnourished that he's demented ;-) BMI of 23.5. I hope it doesn't go over 24 before I get back to the Netherlands - having dinner with old friends is very nice, but it isn't any way to get slimmer. -- Bill Sloman, NijmegenArticle: 95294
John Larkin wrote: > On 21 Jan 2006 17:22:17 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > > > > >John Larkin wrote: > >> On 20 Jan 2006 22:06:18 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >John Larkin wrote: > >> >> On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 20:40:48 +0100, Blade <hun@hun.kom> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >Strange. I always thought that Europe is declining because we are trying > >> >> >to follow the foolish american social model. > >> >> > >> >> Europe is declining because Europeans aren't breeding. So far, we > >> >> don't have that problem in the USA. > >> > > >> >Dear me. You have yet to prove that Europe is declining. > >> > > >> >If it were you'd have to prove that the decline was due to the failure > >> >of the native Europeans to reproduce at the replacement rate - most of > >> >us happen to think that the current population density would be > >> >unsustainably high if we weren't importing lots of stuff, so we aren't > >> >too worried about the prospect of a declining population twenty-odd > >> >years from now. > >> > > >> >And you seen happy to neglect the malnutrition problem that you do have > >> >in raising kids in the U.S. In Europe, former Yugoslavia, The Czech > >> >Republic, Hungary and Romania do worse, but everybody else does > >> >appreciably better. > >> > > >> >Persistent juvenile malnutrition isn't good for intellectual > >> >development, and we do seem to see a lot of evidence of this on this > >> >user group. > >> > >> Bill, you have evolved into a tedious ritual insult-recycling machine. > >> That sounds like decline to me. > > > >So you can't find an answer to the juvenile malnutrition statistics - > > I see a lot of fat kids, but precious few skinny ones. http://www.childinfo.org/areas/malnutrition/wasting.php 0.6 moderately wasted kids per 100,000 isn't all that many, and such kids aren't all that active, so I'm not surprised that you haven't seen them. > >you seem to be declining into a sore loser ... > > I'm not aware of losing anything of value. Until you start looking for smart engineers, and find that minority groups are under-represented. Persistent under-feeding makes kids slow long before it makes them clinically wasted. -- Bill Sloman, NijmegenArticle: 95295
bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: > Bryan Hackney wrote: > >>bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote: >> >>>Bryan Hackney wrote: >>> >>> >>>>SioL wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>"Lanarcam" <lanarcam1@yahoo.fr> wrote in message news:1137771805.545861.31220@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Bryan Hackney wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>And, um, what has Africa ever contributed to the world? >>>>>> >>>>>>No idea? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Homo Sapiens? >>>>> >>>>>Supposedly the first man or woman came from there. >>>>> >>>> >>>>That's not certain, >>> >>> >>>Try looking at the evidence from the DNA, dummy. >> >>Make some sense, asshole. > > > A response that emphasises your lack of education, anus. > > >>>>but we do know where Newton, Galileo and Chebyshev are from. >>> >>> >>>Not really - we haven't got DNA from any of them, but we can be pretty >>>confident that their ancestors came out of Africa. >>> >> >>Are you saying that an African's DNA is somehow a precursor to yours? > > > And yours, and everybody else's. Those Africans lived in Africa more > than 100,000 years ago - how much more is subject to debate. > > >>Are you a Nazi? > > > No. Check with Jim Thompson. He calls me a socialist - and is ignorant > enough to think that he is calling me communist by implication. > > >>I stated obvious facts about African culture, and you start talking about DNA. > > > Odd, that. You produce a few idiotic statements about human culture - > the sort of racist rubbish that the Nazi's used to peddle - then extend > that to make an absurd claim about Africa in general, which I happily > sent up, and now you think "I" might be a Nazi. > > Go away and learn something. Darwin's Law of Evolution might be a good > place to start. > You are an over-the-top fool. I had no idea. I never would have responded.Article: 95296
Ray Andraka wrote: > Joerg wrote: > >> Hello Chris, >> >>> >>> The C.Eng requires a degree, More to the point a suitable degree from a >>> recognised university. >> >> >> >> That's just one of the problems. Here in the US they often require >> ABET compliance of your course work. For many older engineers that is >> not quite possible because even top notch universities didn't have >> some ABET cert 20+ years ago. Also, you'd exclude pretty much all >> foreign universities. That is hardcore discrimination and can (and >> would be) litigated. >> >> >>> You also need three supporters who are also C.Eng and are prepared to >>> sign off on your work experience. >> >> >> >> That's the 2nd problem: There is no critical mass here. The classical >> chicken and egg situation. I know a whopping two licensed engineers >> but both in the wrong field since they are civil engineers. I don't >> know any licensed EE personally (ok, if I make it to one of Jim's >> parties some day I would know at least one) and have never come across >> one in my work. So, where would someone like me or all my colleagues >> obtain three supporters? >> >>> >>>> and only some bureaucrats get to decide who will have a job and who >>>> doesn't? >>> >>> >>> >>> All these "bureaucrats" will be at least degree qualified with a lot of >>> relevant experience behind them. No one on the panel is not a qualified >>> Engineer. >> >> >> >> But not qualified in my field. What do they know about medical >> electronics? Sure, they could test me on how to design bridges and I >> would still remember the basics of structural load and stress >> calculations. Problem is, I do not design bridges. >> >>> >>>> IMHO, if someone has a degree from a university that shall be enough >>>> of a qualification. What difference would some license make? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Well the C.Eng requires the relevant degree from a known university PLUS >>> several relevant experience plus continued, structured, on the job >>> training. So if the C.Eng is used as a level for the license all the >>> licensed Engineers will be degree qualified and at least 5 years >>> relevant experience. >> >> >> >> And how would the others get a job? How would you prove experience if >> you never worked under, for or next to a licensed engineer because >> there were none? >> >> >>> IT is possible to get a C.Eng without a degree but the amount of >>> relevant experience goes up a LOT (about a decade I think) and they do >>> expect suitable training and pre-degree qualifications etc >>> >> >> That's scary. Passing those tests doesn't take much. But the thought >> of someone designing medical equipment without truly understanding EMI >> mechanisms, dielectric breakdown scenarios or regulations such as >> IEC601 would outright frighten me. >> >> >>> In theory you should only have the Good People licensed but like doctors >>> some Good People don't manage to pass the exams (brilliant but freak out >>> at an exam) and a few Bad People who get though but like doctors and >>> architects it works 95% of the time. >>> >> >> >> >> That's the theory. In practice decades of licensing rules have IMHO >> failed to prove that they improve anything in electrical engineering. >> I have even read a statement of a licensing body admitting to that. >> >> Regards, Joerg >> >> http://www.analogconsultants.com > > > A few points here: > 1) You can obtain a PE license in any state that adheres to the NSPE > guidelines without a degree if you have 20 years experience in the > field. That invalidates your concern about ABET certification, since > most engineering schools in the US have had the certification for the > past 20 years. > > 2) Passing the test is only one of the wickets you need to pass through. > At least as important as the test, is your references who ascribe to > know your work and attest that it is worthy of a professional. > > 3) Finding the PE references is a little harder as an EE, but is not > impossible. There's a good chance, for example, that a mechanical > engineer in your firm has his PE and can truthfully sign off as being > familiar with your work. If you have outside consultants doing work > (not contractors, consultants) for your company, one or more of them > will likely have a P.E. As a last resort, there is nothing stopping you > from joining the local chapter of NSPE and getting friendly with the > members. Many would be very interested in hearing about your work. They > really are a likeable lot. :-) > > 4) Most states in the US DO REQUIRE someone on staff with a PE license > if you are offering engineering services in any form to the public. If, > as you signature suggests, you are a consultant offering design > services, you DO NEED to have someone with a PE license on your staff in > most of the 50 states. Some states prosecute that more aggressively > than others. My state took all of about 6 months to find me after I > hung my shingle out. In most cases, the state has the authority to issue > a cease and desist order against you if you cannot prove you have a PE > on staff. > > 5) Having a PE license doesn't give you carte blanche to go out and do > stuff outside of your area of expertise. In fact, the code of ethics > specifically states that you won't sign off on stuff that is not in your > area of expertise. > > 6) Some of the medical firms I've dealt with specifically do require a > PE on a project involving medical equipment that could potentially > endanger a patient. I'm not sure if it is a regulatory requirement or > not, but it was a requirement from somewhere. If you are working for a > medical firm, ask around. I'll bet there is a PE involved somewhere in > the project. Every medical project I've been involved with has had a PE > directly involved with the project. > > 7) PE licensing is intended to protect the public by certifying that you > have demonstrated competency as an engineer in your field. You needn't > have the PE to do engineering work, but if the engineering services are > offered to the public, someone with a PE has to be accountable for the > work. The worst engineer I knew was an EE - PE. Never designed a damn thing. Knew how to dress, though. But then, he "was" an EE in a field where PE mattered - building systems, plant stuff, etc. Certainly not eletronic design. What can I add to what Paul Carpenter wrote? Certain companies needs PEs as window dressing, the same way some rich heiresses need poodles.Article: 95297
Pooh Bear wrote: > Bryan Hackney wrote: > > >>As for Steyn, predictions are one thing. Can you refute any of his >>facts? > > > He has no facts. It's all in his mind. > > Graham > With such wit and surgical analysis, what is the need for trained seals?Article: 95298
"Phil Tomson" <ptkwt@aracnet.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:dqu4f80q7k@enews2.newsguy.com... > In article <6gh4t1d9bsi0sfs3s0ltrvfd8nuur8pfd9@4ax.com>, > Brian Drummond <brian@shapes.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>On 21 Jan 2006 09:21:06 GMT, ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson) wrote: [snip] >>A tool which took a failed PAR and its TWR and had, say, 80% chance of >>fixing the failing paths quite quickly (i.e. not overnight!) might win a >>few friends... > > But again, how would we get back into PAR from XDL, can you offer more > details? I suppose if PAR doesn't accept XDL, that it must accept a list > of > critical nets and we would generate that based on the knowledge extracted > from > the XDL and timing report. > XDL is almost the same as NCD and as NMC (hard macro) is actually also a NCD I think it is possible to create XDL based hard macros that are converted to NCD and renamed to NMC then used again by PAR that could be one way anttiArticle: 95299
"Rob" <robnstef@frontiernet.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:4gAAf.357$qg.257@news01.roc.ny... > I'm familiar with the hardware setup. What I'm looking for is a document > that tells one how to creat the prom file with the tool. > actually I guessed that, well you just need to start impact and 'enable revisionong' then you can assign different bitstreams to different revisions. antti
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