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Article: 95450
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:27:49 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello Chris,

> 
>>Other states don't, and I sure won't ever live there.
> 
> I wonder what world you do live in... :-)
> 

In California, which has the industry exemption :-)

A very regulated turf but at least we now have Arnold who can and will 
put a lid on the most egregious regulatory intrusions.


>>I have never encountered that. We live by standards such as UL2601, FDA 
>>regulations and so on.
> 
> the FDA ones don't seem to bad.
> 

The 510(k) approval process isn't so difficult. But wait until you have 
to go through a full-blown PMA.

> 
>>As I replied to Chris before a PE license can oblige you to mandatory PL 
>>coverage. Just for the fun go out and try to find an underwriter. I did, 
>>until I had blisters from dialing. Zilch. Nada.
> 
> You can get it in the UK 
> It will get better as more people are required to be a PE/C.Eng etc 
> 

Maybe it is changing. When I interviewed a few EEs from the UK in the 
late 90's none of them had C.Eng. Later I asked one of them what C.Eng 
meant. He didn't have the foggiest idea. An excellent engineer BTW.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Article: 95451
Subject: Re: Virtex-4 BiDirectional Ports
From: "Dave Pollum" <vze24h5m@verizon.net>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 11:34:22 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

Brad Smallridge wrote:
> How does one properly synthesize and simulate a bidirectional
> port on the Virtex-4 using ISE 7.1i.
>
> I drafted code from an earlier Spartan 3 design, which synthesized
> nicely.  On the Virtex-4, the T signals is not registered although
> the block diagram indicates that it could be.
>
> Also, the ISE simulator does not show any output values on the
> inout ports.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brad Smallridge
>
>  sram_tristate_process:process(sram_clk)
>  begin
>  if( sram_clk'event and sram_clk='1') then
>    if( sram_cam_en_2='1' ) then
>      sram_flash_data <= sram_write_data;
>    else
>      sram_flash_data <= (others=>'Z');
>    end if;
>  end if;
>  end process;
>
>  sram_read_data_process:process(sram_clk)
>  begin
>  if(sram_clk'event and sram_clk='1') then
>      sram_read_data <= sram_flash_data; -- 36 bit
>  end if;
>  end process;

Brad - I also haven't figured out how to simulate a bi-directional port
using ISE.
The code below is basically what I've used for a bi-directional
register.

write_reg: process ( clk ) is
begin
  if rising_edge( clk ) then
    if reg_sel = '1' and  write = '1' then
      my_reg <= data;
    end if;
  end if;
end process;

read_reg: process ( reg_sel, read_reg, my_reg ) is
begin
  if reg_sel = '1' and read_reg = '1' then
    data <= my_reg;
  else
    data < = (others => 'Z');
  end if;
end process;

HTH
-Dave Pollum


Article: 95452
Subject: Re: need for a group FAQ?
From: "grouchy" <hennebry@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 11:34:23 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

Gabor wrote:

> Getting back on topic, though, I would guess that a lot of objectional
> posts get here through the Google portal.  Is there a way to post
> a link to the FAQ there?

Google has FAQs?

Is there one on trimming one's posts?


Article: 95453
Subject: FPGA board with High Speed LVDS
From: mk <kal*@dspia.*comdelete>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 19:44:06 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hi,
I am looking for a board with at least 16 balanced LVDS connections
able to run at 800 MHz, preferably A but X would be OK too. Any and
all suggestions are welcome. Of course the larger the FPGA the better,
and  two or more FPGAs would be awesome :-)

Thanks.

Article: 95454
Subject: Re: ISE8.1 on Linux, first impressions
From: ptkwt@aracnet.com (Phil Tomson)
Date: 23 Jan 2006 19:47:38 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
In article <1138003542.911045.113800@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
hutzelbutz <joachim.becker@imtek.uni-freiburg.de> wrote:
>For me, the problem with the extremely slow GUI is still there.
>Funny enough, the version 7 of ISE was running fine on RedHat Linux
>2.4.21. Now that we upgraded to 8.1, it takes ISE 3 Minutes (!) to
>start beyond the splash screen. All interaction is extremely slow but
>the commandline tools are very fast.
>
>Is there anything I am missing? Do I need a newer version of Java / Qt
>/ whatever?
>
>I would be thankful for any suggestions.

I would suggest using scripts or makefiles to run the toolchain.  Scripting 
allows you to automate things and thus offers advantages that the GUI can't.

Phil

Article: 95455
Subject: Re: Reconfigurable Array of Array
From: Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:20:21 +1300
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Antti Lukats wrote:
> just for fun I wrote down how I see it possible to have different FPGAs to 
> be cut out from single wafer covered with completly repeating pattern
> 
> http://help.xilant.com/RAA
> 
> I am not including the text here as I may edit the original even before the 
> post is appearing in the NG

Xilinx must be close to this, with their "strip FPGAs" they do now
which are BGA only, flip chip.

What about communication between clusters - you don't really want to
lock that into PCB routes ?
Perhaps a transputer type serial highway, with some redundancy ?
Next would be some means of BadCell bypass.

Packages would be a problem - anything over ~20mm/side is prone to
cracking : Max die sizes have NOT changed much at all.
[Which is also why the rush to 450mm wafers is slower ]

Something with gaps to allow slice, would have less logic
inside that Max die area, than a custom die ?

-jg



Article: 95456
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Chris Hills <chris@phaedsys.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:20:41 +0000
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
In article <Ug8Bf.9655$bF.7015@dukeread07>, Ray Andraka
<ray@andraka.com> writes
>Joerg,
>


>My take on your strong objections to licensure is that you are afraid of 
>the process, either the tests or the application process. 


I have gained a similar opinion of many who knock the C.Eng in the UK

>If you are 
>competant, you should have little trouble navigating the application 
>process.

I agree.

>You can get a PE with a foreign school degree.  If you have 20 years 
>experience, you can get it with no degree. The obstacles may be a little 
>higher, but it is possible. The point here is that they want you to meet 
>a certain level of demonstrated proficiency, which is why they want an 
>accredited degree.  


Much the same as the UK.... in fact there is a general harmonisation of
the requirements world wide between the various regulatory bodies.

>something. I don't expect anyone, much less a licensing board to accept 
>a paper degree from an off shore school with no credentials to back up 
>the quality of education any more than I expect them to accept one of 
>the diplomas offered in those email scams.

A friend of mine, whilst globe trotting for a few years,  bought a Phd
in Philosophy in a market that in Asia for one of the Indian
Universities. A she said who the hell can dispute a Dr of Philosophy in
Philosophy from Rangoon? The subject is so orange... Though he never did
have the bottle to put it on his CV when applying for work in
electronics. :-)


>The PEs who provide your references do not have to be in the same 
>discipline, nor do they need to have any expertise in your area of work. 
> They are basically vouching for you by stating that your work is 
>worthy of a professional and that you are moral and ethical in your 
>work.  It doesn't mean they have to be a co-worker or know the intimate 
>details of your work.  

However in the UK they tend to like them as close to your work as
possible and it is the same with the interview. 

though to be honest the people who say there is no one who can asses me
are either The leading expert in the field in which case their work will
be well known or else they are making excuses. 

In the case of Medical electronics there are plenty of people who could
do it. I know quite a few. Unless your particular fields so specialised
in which case I am sure you can explain your patents  to the
interviewing panel

>California, as with other states, does have an exemption for the license 
>for industrial/manufacturing.  However, I think if you check the chapter 
>and verse of the law, you'll find that it does not include independent 
>consultants offering engineering services to manufacturing concerns or 
>other firms.  That is certainly the case in a number of the states I 
>have done business in.  It also does not allow you to call yourself an 
>engineering consultant, and is in fact pretty specific about that.  Some 
>states will take that as far as if the find both the words "engineer" 
>and "consult" anywhere in your advertising (websites, brochures, 
>business cards) even though they are not together, they will serve you 
>with a cease and desist order, and possibly a fine.

Ouch... it's not that bad in the UK yet. 

>PE makes it easier to find it.  One insurer that provides it is Evanston.

Is that in Zurich? :-)

>Ahh, but you do offer your services to the public. Offering services to 
>a company that you are not on the direct payroll for is offering 
>services to the public. 

Yes. Though there is probably a legal hair to split on Business to
business trade as opposed to business to individual people

> Merely having a website or other advertising 
>for your services is considered bona-fide proof of you offering your 
>services to the public.  Your website says "Consulting Services to 
>Industry", which is both offering services to the public, and also 
>violates the provision in the law that reserves the term consulting 
>engineer to those who hold a PE license. 

So perhaps it is time to apply before they raise the bar.

> As for those engineers working 
>for the utilities, you can bet that their work has to be signed off by a 
>PE before it can be fielded.  That PE may not be sitting in the office 
>with those engineers, but I am dead certain a PE stamp has to show up on 
>the drawings before it is fielded.

It is the same I believe in aerospace. 

>To me, it sounds like you are mostly coming up with excuses rather than 
>seriously looking at it.

I agree. 

PE, C.Eng etc is becoming more of a requirement. It will become more so
as more embedded SW controls our lives.  You only need a couple of high
profile SW accidents that cause a lot of loss of life before the blanket
regulations suddenly sweep in and you find you have 6 months to get
certified or change job. 


Ironically as a Chartered Electrical Engineer I am no longer able to do
household wiring. You have to be a licensed electrician (it's been the
same for domestic Gas fitters for years) . 

-- 
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
\/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills  Staffs  England     /\/\/\/\/
/\/\/ chris@phaedsys.org      www.phaedsys.org \/\/\
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/




Article: 95457
Subject: Re: Xilinx ISE & StateCad
From: "Mahmoud" <mahmoud.kassem@gmail.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 12:20:47 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
You can only generate the HDL code from the StateCAD ..
However, you can view RTL Schematic after Synthesizing your design.
(add the State Machine to a project, ..etc)


Article: 95458
Subject: Re: SSOs and Vcco on Spartan3
From: "Marco" <marco@marylon.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 12:23:01 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
I'm a bit confused too, so do I have to connect all the Vcco (as
reported on the datasheet) and only a number of decoupling capacitor
according to the xapp623 or do I have to put a decoupling capacitor for
each Vcco?
Marco


Article: 95459
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:25:28 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello Ray,

> 
> The first step to getting a PE is to take the FE exam which, if passed 
> will get you your EIT.  You don't need any PE signatures to take that 
> exam. 


AFAIK (and I may be wrong about that) California requires there be at 
least four years of work experience after passing FE. They won't let you 
take the FE, submit your refs and then sit for the final.

> 
> My take on your strong objections to licensure is that you are afraid of 
> the process, either the tests or the application process. If you are 
> competant, you should have little trouble navigating the application 
> process.  The tests do require you to study up on areas that are outside 
> of your immediate expertise, but there are enough different subject 
> areas (and generally you only need to complete questions in a few areas) 
> that you should be able to find some combination of subject areas for 
> which a little bit of study combined with your experience in your niche 
> will get you through the PE test with flying colors.
> 

My objections are more based on my strong belief that we should strive 
for an environment with the least amount of regulatory burden. That's 
what our country was built upon. That does have downsides, for example 
the lack of a formal apprenticeship program in the trade such as 
plumbing, construction, electrical and so on. But in EE there is the 
proof you get with your degree, something many trades folks do not have 
because they didn't go to any trade school. If there would be hardcore 
proof that licensure provide tangible benefits that would be different. 
I have not seen such proof.


>  One of a student's responsibilities in selecting a school is to make 
> sure the school has the credentials to make his intended degree worth 
> something. ...


As I said, there are many top notch "ivy league" universities in Asia, 
Europe and other areas that provide excellent education but are not ABET 
credentialed. These aren't offshore diploma mills. In fact, some are a 
lot stricter than many of our schools. Making those graduates wait 20 
years or shell out tens of thousands of Dollars again is not right and 
does not benefit the public.


> The PEs who provide your references do not have to be in the same 
> discipline, nor do they need to have any expertise in your area of work. 
>  They are basically vouching for you by stating that your work is worthy 
> of a professional and that you are moral and ethical in your work.  It 
> doesn't mean they have to be a co-worker or know the intimate details of 
> your work. ...


I know you can get the three signatures that way. But this is just the 
point. While they might be able to judge my ethics they are not able to 
judge my competence. So what good does it do the public if someone signs 
off to do me a favor? A civil engineer or even an EE on the power 
business can say that I talk up a nice prose about electronics. But that 
is in no way a guarantee that I won't mess up a beamformer design for an 
ultrasound machine (promise, I won't...).


>                                                       ...  I tried 
> to point out to you that there are likely people you've come in contact 
> with that have a PE license, but you dismissed that out of hand. ...


As I said, I did ask that question a lot. There is no dismissing here at 
all. What I found was two civil engineers, one designing bridges, the 
other designing environmental improvements (construction). Then I found 
one more in power engineering who was thinking about getting a PE. But 
he hadn't taken the FE after he graduated because nobody had pointed it 
out to them in those days so he put that whole PE idea on the back burner.


>                             ...  I'm sure your NSPE chapter would be 
> glad to have you as a guest at their meetings even if you aren't a 
> member, that is unless you are a rude arrogant SOB (in which case you 
> would still probably be invited the first time, just not invited back).
> 

I think I am a friendly guy. Maybe I'll check that out. It can never 
hurt to network.


> California, as with other states, does have an exemption for the license 
> for industrial/manufacturing.  However, I think if you check the chapter 
> and verse of the law, you'll find that it does not include independent 
> consultants offering engineering services to manufacturing concerns or 
> other firms. ...


It does explicitly include consultants. I believe that was forced into 
the regs by industry lobbying. We have many small start-ups that rely on 
consultants and our legislature knows that taking that exemption away 
would cripple our state and send the already strained state budget into 
a hard tail spin.


>             ... That is certainly the case in a number of the states I 
> have done business in. ...


Yes, and legally even you could probably not work there unless you get a 
license in those states by comity. An RI license won't do you any good 
in Missouri and so on. Just that requirement to get (and pay for) 
umpteen licenses is something I find, with all due respect, pretty pathetic.


>                       ... It also does not allow you to call yourself an 
> engineering consultant, and is in fact pretty specific about that.  Some 
> states will take that as far as if the find both the words "engineer" 
> and "consult" anywhere in your advertising (websites, brochures, 
> business cards) even though they are not together, they will serve you 
> with a cease and desist order, and possibly a fine.
> 

If a state board would go to the extreme they'd have some class action 
coming at them and they know that. All one would have to do is point 
them to Monster.com and make them treat everyone equal. IOW fine or put 
out of work about half the freelance work force. The political backlash 
would be tremendous.


> As far as liability insurance goes, no, having a PE does not require nor 
> obligate you to carry liability insurance under any stretch of the 
> definition. ...


Maybe, I haven't followed it in years. One of my PE friend from the 
construction field told me he had to because he is registered. And it 
was sometimes financially killing him.

Our licensing authority had been dissolved a few years ago and the 
Department of Consumer Affairs took over. I know that they require 
contractors to secure liability and can't imagine they wouldn't require 
the same of engineers.


>        ...  I do carry it, but it is not required. Some of the firms I 
> do business with wanted to see it, and I have assets I wish to protect 
> should something arise.  You can get coverage, even for involvement with 
> medical devices.  It isn't cheap, but you can buy coverage, and having a 
> PE makes it easier to find it.  One insurer that provides it is Evanston.
> 

I know, I went through all of them. IEEE was the first with a decline to 
quote. Evanston was the only one with a quote but it was prohibitively 
expensive and IIRC my insurance agent mentioned they weren't licensed 
for CA.


> Ahh, but you do offer your services to the public. Offering services to 
> a company that you are not on the direct payroll for is offering 
> services to the public.  Merely having a website or other advertising 
> for your services is considered bona-fide proof of you offering your 
> services to the public.  Your website says "Consulting Services to 
> Industry", which is both offering services to the public, and also 
> violates the provision in the law that reserves the term consulting 
> engineer to those who hold a PE license. ...


Not per California law. The public is private individuals, not industry. 
And it doesn't say consulting engineer.


>                                   ... As for those engineers working 
> for the utilities, you can bet that their work has to be signed off by a 
> PE before it can be fielded.  That PE may not be sitting in the office 
> with those engineers, but I am dead certain a PE stamp has to show up on 
> the drawings before it is fielded.
> 

Yes, on new plants and installations. But I asked one what he'd do when 
something needs a mod. "I'll do it and then it gets documented". Maybe 
it is stamped at some later time but typically it's fired up right away.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Article: 95460
Subject: Re: FPGA Journal Article
From: weingart@cs.ualberta.ca (Tobias Weingartner)
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:26:16 +0000 (UTC)
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Peter Alfke wrote:
> 
> Tobias Weingartner wrote:
> > The only advice I was hoping to offer was one of "please reconsider opening
> > the bitstream format".
> >
> Tobias, just to remind you, the following is what you wrote,
> and that is what I strongly take exception to:
> 
> "I'm no VLSI designer, but I can't imagine that putting
> a simple AES engine onto the FPGA, along with some OTP ram for the key,
> 
> would take any significant room.  As a bonus, you may be able to offer
> the simple AES engine for the FPGA to use once programming is done."
> 
> That's what I call simplistic and un-informed advice.
> I want to avoid the bovine excrement word...

Call it as you see it.  I tend to.  And since you are much more
versed as to what is possible and/or easy/big/small, I'll defer
to your expertise on the matter above.  Sorry to cause a stir.

Still... can I get the bitstream info?  :)

-- 
 [100~Plax]sb16i0A2172656B63616820636420726568746F6E61207473754A[dZ1!=b]salax

Article: 95461
Subject: Re: Xilinx padding LC numbers, how do you really feel about it?
From: Jim Granville <no.spam@designtools.co.nz>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 09:40:14 +1300
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Austin Lesea wrote:

<snip>
> 
> Would I rather that Marketing was not responsible for the data sheet? 
> Heavens No!  My paycheck depends on their abilities!

Yikes!! - so Xilinx really HAVE abdicated engineering to Marketing ?


That explains the debacle that is ISE 8.1i, and the staggering lack
of testing that seems to have gone into that release.

I do start to worry about the culture change at Xilinx.....

-jg

Puzzle: Would it not be LESS effort to just go fix the data sheets,
than to have Xilinx engineers repeatedly make fools of themselves here, 
trying to justify the plain silliness....

Radical Idea: Give Marketing the front page(s) of the data sheets, and
let engineering control the rest, and label the pages accordingly.
Then _everyone_ knows what they are reading...


Article: 95462
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Dave Hansen <iddw@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 14:50:07 -0600
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
I'm surprised that I haven't killed this thread yet, but since we're
so wildly off-topic anyway...

On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 02:49:29 GMT in comp.arch.embedded, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

>Hello Jim,
>
>> 
>> I always order up certified copies.  I NEVER part with originals ;-)
>> 
>
>I did ask them whether that would be remotely possible. They said "nope".
>
>The worst was when I needed a driver license in the Netherlands. They 
>took my original for four weeks and gave me a little Xerox snippet that 
>said that I had a license. All in Dutch no less. No signatures, no 
>stamps, nothing. The only alternative to that "process" would have been 
>full blown drivers ed and tests, to the tune of some $2k.

When I was in High School, my family moved from Iowa to Michigan.  I
remember the Michigan Secretary of State's office (where you get your
driver's license and register your car) to be a nightmare -- long
lines, unhelpful clerks, and a generally painful way to spend an
afternoon.

A few years back, when I moved from Minnesota back to Michigan, I was
bracing myself for the nightmare -- and was pleasently surprised at
how easy and efficient transferring my license and registration was.
Someone in the Secretary of State's office had been working hard to
make things easier in the intervening 25 years, and it showed.

I recently moved to back to Iowa (after over 30 years).  Getting the
license was relatively easy, though somewhat bureaucratic (you need
proof of residence -- the deed to your house will do -- as well as
your original Social Security card  -- nothing else will do.  Hope you
have it!), but I have to go to a seperate office in a different
location to transfer my vehicle titles (State DoT for D/L vs. County
Tax Administration for vehicle registration).  And of course, they're
only open during the hours I work, so I have to schedule time off to
do it.  Sigh.

Regards,
                                        -=Dave

-- 
Change is inevitable, progress is not.

Article: 95463
Subject: Re: Webpack 8.1i size
From: "Symon" <symon_brewer@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:54:20 -0000
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
"Simon Peacock" <simon$actrix.co.nz> wrote in message 
news:43d46692$1@news2.actrix.gen.nz...
>
> My reasoning is there is a 1 GIG monthly limit in NZ... and then its 64k 
> for
> the rest of the month.
>
> My two cents
>
> Simon
>
$2c is not enough. You need $10 per 10G!!

http://www.orcon.net.nz/products/bitstream/residential/pricing

HTH, Syms. ;-) 



Article: 95464
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:59:07 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 02:58:27 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

>    No problem.  I am starting to lose my close-up eyesight to diabetes,
> and have to depend on the spell checker. I have severe carpal tunnel
> (The VA and Shands hospital doctors tell me the surgery won't help me)
> so I have to type with just a couple fingers.  That causes me a lot of
> spelling errors.  I get so busy trying to make sure the spelling is
> correct that I sometimes forget to check the syntax.


Michael, I think you need some serious therapy to root out these self-
hatred issues.

It's quite difficult to give oneself "carpal tunnel syndrome" - you really
have to work at it for a long time, while ignoring the pain from your
wrist. There's an exceedingly simple cure for this - if it hurts, stop.

I've been sitting at a keyboard pretty much all of my waking life for
about 30 years, and the only time I ever got a _hint_ of "carpal tunnel"
was when I was holding the mouse in a very awkward position - when my
wrist said, "This Hurts!" I changed the position of my arm. Voila! No
"carpal tunnel syndrome"!

You'll get much better when you learn why you hate yourself so much.

Good Luck!
Rich


Article: 95465
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:00:10 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:33:14 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> Steve at fivetrees wrote:
>> 
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:43D2F4B3.7888F481@earthlink.net...
>> >   No problem.  I am starting to lose my close-up eyesight to diabetes,
>> > and have to depend on the spell checker. I have severe carpal tunnel
>> > (The VA and Shands hospital doctors tell me the surgery won't help me)
>> > so I have to type with just a couple fingers.  That causes me a lot of
>> > spelling errors.  I get so busy trying to make sure the spelling is
>> > correct that I sometimes forget to check the syntax.
>> 
>> Sorry to hear it. Good luck.
>> 
>> Steve
>> http://www.fivetrees.com
> 
> 
>    I have come to the conclusion that I'll just have to live with it as
> long as I can still take care of myself without outside help.  The one
> thing I really miss is reading real books.  I have to put a book on my
> flatbed scanner, then blow it up on my computer screen to read it
> without getting a headache.  I have read as many as 10 paperback books
> in a single day when I was younger.  I was an avid Sci-Fi fan when I was
> in my teens and early 20s and read just about anything I could get my
> hands on.
> 

Maybe you haven't heard of this recent invention: "Reading glasses".

Good Luck!
Rich


Article: 95466
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Rich Grise <eatmyshorts@doubleclick.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:00:53 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:33:14 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> Steve at fivetrees wrote:
>> 
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:43D2F4B3.7888F481@earthlink.net...
>> >   No problem.  I am starting to lose my close-up eyesight to diabetes,
>> > and have to depend on the spell checker. I have severe carpal tunnel
>> > (The VA and Shands hospital doctors tell me the surgery won't help me)
>> > so I have to type with just a couple fingers.  That causes me a lot of
>> > spelling errors.  I get so busy trying to make sure the spelling is
>> > correct that I sometimes forget to check the syntax.
>> 
>> Sorry to hear it. Good luck.
>> 
>> Steve
>> http://www.fivetrees.com
> 
> 
>    I have come to the conclusion that I'll just have to live with it as
> long as I can still take care of myself without outside help.  The one
> thing I really miss is reading real books.  I have to put a book on my
> flatbed scanner, then blow it up on my computer screen to read it
> without getting a headache.  I have read as many as 10 paperback books
> in a single day when I was younger.  I was an avid Sci-Fi fan when I was
> in my teens and early 20s and read just about anything I could get my
> hands on.
> 
>    Like Art Linkletter once said, "Old age isn't for sissies!" :)

And, as I've discovered through hard experience, rigidity isn't strength.

Good Luck!
Rich



Article: 95467
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:02:43 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Hello Paul,

> 
> The PE 's giving you refeence/verification do NOT have to be EEs. I just was 
> approved to take the exam this April and 2 of my references were licensed 
> mechanical PEs, not EE.  Don't let this deter you....you can find PEs of any 
> field and use for reference.
> 

Interesting. Then I would already know two (civil engineers). Was that 
in California?

I just re-checked the application form here in CA. It looks like it's up 
to four refs now and says "These individuals must be licensed as 
professional engineers in the discipline for which you are applying". 
That would rule out my CE friends. Also, it says you must have been 
"engaged" with them, meaning a work relationship. Well, I never designed 
any bridges for them ;-)

That would make it all toast I guess. I never worked with any PEs, just 
with one EIT.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Article: 95468
Subject: Re: Configuration Spartan 3
From: "luigi" <luigi.zadra@bluewin.ch>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 13:02:54 -0800
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Thanks Antti

This was a very helpful hint.
Since I know that this is a Xilinx fault, I can live with. Important is
to know, that we don't have a hardware error.
We need "master serial mode" and want change constantly the resistors,
so we erase the flash.

Luigi


Article: 95469
Subject: Re: need for a group FAQ?
From: "Gabor" <gabor@alacron.com>
Date: 23 Jan 2006 13:03:17 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>

grouchy wrote:
> Gabor wrote:
>
> > Getting back on topic, though, I would guess that a lot of objectional
> > posts get here through the Google portal.  Is there a way to post
> > a link to the FAQ there?
>
> Google has FAQs?
>
> Is there one on trimming one's posts?

O.K. I guess I wasn't clear.  What I was asking was if there is a
way to post a link to Philip Freidin's existing FPGA_FAQ site on the
Google
portal (Google groups:comp.arch.fpga).  Google does in fact have
FAQ's on posting etiquette, but I doubt many of the offenders
have browsed enough to find it.  I'm posting this using google
and the only link on the page for posting takes you to a very
brief description of a usenet group.

Browsing through the "about" links I found this brief note
on Usenet posting:

http://groups.google.com/support/bin/static.py?page=basics.html#flamed

What I was hoping was that the main page you see when
browsing to this group on the google site could be managed
somehow like a private google group where some administrator
can post links to FAQ's for the group.
Having an FAQ for the group doesn't do much good unless you
trip over the link to it on your way to making your first post...


Article: 95470
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:03:42 GMT
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 13:56:45 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jan 2006 18:33:14 GMT, the renowned "Michael A. Terrell"
>>
>>   I have come to the conclusion that I'll just have to live with it as
>>long as I can still take care of myself without outside help.  The one
>>thing I really miss is reading real books.  I have to put a book on my
>>flatbed scanner, then blow it up on my computer screen to read it
>>without getting a headache.  I have read as many as 10 paperback books
>>in a single day when I was younger.  I was an avid Sci-Fi fan when I was
>>in my teens and early 20s and read just about anything I could get my
>>hands on.
> 
> There are devices that have a camera mounted vertically with a monitor
> overtop, used for people who have poor vision, but they cost several
> thousands of dollars (small market) if you can't get a subsidy on
> them. I wonder if you could do the same thing with a decent camera and
> an inexpensive monitor. It's got to be better to just move the book
> around under the camera than waiting while the scanner whines and
> grinds its way through each frame. 
> 
> There are also dedicated reading machines such as the Xerox "Reading
> Edge" which will read books aloud with fair success (you have to get
> used to the text-to-speech 'accent' they have). 
> 

I think he's just so full of false pride that he refuses to go to the
drug store and pick up a $10.00 pair of glasses. I have a couple - one
for the computer, and one for doing the crossword puzzle in bed. I don't
use either on the TeeVee, unless for some reason I need to see some 
detail, like the football scoreboard. ;-)

Thanks,
Rich


Article: 95471
Subject: Re: FPGA Journal Article
From: "Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:03:57 +0100
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"Tobias Weingartner" <weingart@cs.ualberta.ca> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:slrndtaev9.6vd.weingart@irricana.cs.ualberta.ca...
> Peter Alfke wrote:
>>
>> Tobias Weingartner wrote:
>> > The only advice I was hoping to offer was one of "please reconsider 
>> > opening
>> > the bitstream format".
>> >
>> Tobias, just to remind you, the following is what you wrote,
>> and that is what I strongly take exception to:
>>
>> "I'm no VLSI designer, but I can't imagine that putting
>> a simple AES engine onto the FPGA, along with some OTP ram for the key,
>>
>> would take any significant room.  As a bonus, you may be able to offer
>> the simple AES engine for the FPGA to use once programming is done."
>>
>> That's what I call simplistic and un-informed advice.
>> I want to avoid the bovine excrement word...
>
> Call it as you see it.  I tend to.  And since you are much more
> versed as to what is possible and/or easy/big/small, I'll defer
> to your expertise on the matter above.  Sorry to cause a stir.
>
> Still... can I get the bitstream info?  :)
>
No, Tobias, you can not. The price of what you are asking is higher then you 
realize.

If you want it, you will have to get it by reverse engineering.

Antti 



Article: 95472
Subject: Re: Configuration Spartan 3
From: "Antti Lukats" <antti@openchip.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 22:06:16 +0100
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"luigi" <luigi.zadra@bluewin.ch> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 
news:1138050174.499175.245290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks Antti
>
> This was a very helpful hint.
> Since I know that this is a Xilinx fault, I can live with. Important is
> to know, that we don't have a hardware error.
> We need "master serial mode" and want change constantly the resistors,
> so we erase the flash.
>
> Luigi
>
there is special Answer Record that says the 'change mode' if having 
problems, but I have too few BRAMs overleft to remember the AR numbers.

if in doubt always clean sweep the config memories.

Antti 



Article: 95473
Subject: Re: Xilinx padding LC numbers, how do you really feel about it?
From: Austin Lesea <austin@xilinx.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 13:09:58 -0800
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
Jim,

Marketing has always had responsibility for putting the data sheet 
together.  That is nothing new.

Peter and I have decided to work our how to do this better.  We'll see 
how successful we are...

Austin

Article: 95474
Subject: Re: OT:Shooting Ourselves in the Foot
From: "Rich Grise, but drunk" <yahright@example.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:10:39 GMT
Links: << >>  << T >>  << A >>
On Mon, 23 Jan 2006 17:11:30 +0100, Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:
> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
...
>> Is it our destiny to be rich and well fed, while the rest of the world
>> stays poor and hungry?
> 
> Sure - for as long as the rest of the world insist on their right to
> choose a looser culture!

Looser than what?

And what's a "loose" culture anyway? One where people aren't oppressed
by the authoritarians? In that case, the US is supposed to have the
loosest culture there's ever been on the planet! ;-D

Thanks,
Rich




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