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On Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:19:11 -0400, Ray Andraka <no_spam_randraka@ids.net> wrote: >for the 8 pin Amp .100 SIP connector: >pin description >1 VCC >2 SDO (from the device) >3 SDI (to the device) >4 /ispEN >5 Key (plugged hole in connector) >6 MODE >7 GND >8 SCLK Thanks for your answer. The pinout for the 8 pin Amp .100 SIP connector is in the "dlcable.pdf" sheet to, but how does the 25-pin parallel port adapter on the PC side look like ? Thanks in advance, Egon.Article: 7801
Ray Andraka (no_spam_randraka@ids.net) wrote: : Michael David Scott wrote: : > : > Adam Elbirt (aelbirt@viewlogic.com) wrote: : > : > : Achim Gratz wrote: : > : > : > : > "Austin Franklin" <dar8kroom@ix.netcom.com> writes: : > : > : > : > > They don't call the Mazda Miata the Miata in Portugal....you might want to : > : > > look that one up too! : > : > For a similar reason that the old show "Joanny loves Chaci" was the most : > popular premiere ever to air in Korea. : > : > Go figure what Chaci means. : : Ciaci (pronounced chaci) in polish means Aunt Not in Korean.Article: 7802
I don't know wether they research for the Italian meaning of Altera, but I can say that here in Italy say Altera with the accent on the letter 'e' while the word you found in the dictionary has an accent on the letter 'A'. Actually I never tought about the Italian translation and I can say that Altera sells a lot in Italy. ciao!! Alberto Austin Franklin <dar8kroom@ix.netcom.com> scritto nell'articolo <01bcd810$d267b6e0$52625ecf@drt1>... > This is NOT meant to be any kind of a slander or slight towards Altera...in > fact, I highly respect the company and the people I have worked with from > there. But...while I was in Italy, for some reason, I decided to look up > the meaning of 'Altera' in an Italian dictionary...and here's exactly what > it read... >Article: 7803
Peter <z80@ds.com> wrote in article <3445db9c.5666487@news.netcomuk.co.uk>... [SNIP] > I am now looking at the M1 place & route software, but this is NT Also runs on Win95. > only. (It also does not support XC3000 but that is another story - > apparently the next version will). This makes the old Viewdraw stuff a > pain to use because its DOS extender does not run in a NT DOS box. > > So I am looking at alternative schematic entry solutions which don't > cost a fortune like Workview Office. > > Protel Schematic 3.2 is not too bad as Windows schematic entry progs > go. It comes with loads of Xilinx library parts. But it will not > (AFAIK) emit XNF directly. I'm using Protel 2.4 which does output XNF netlists although this is an optional extra. XNF netlists may have been dropped from version 3, but I think that would be unlikey. I do know however that Xilinx is moving towards EDIF format netlists which Protel already supports. > Peter. > > Return address is invalid to help stop junk mail. > E-mail replies to z80@digiXYZserve.com but > remove the XYZ. >Article: 7804
The DB25 parallel port pinout and the 5 wire interface pinout are described in the ISP section (section 8) of the 1996 data book. The latest information is also available on the Lattice web page under ISP Hardware and Software section. Specifically, the information that you are looking for is contained within ISP Architecture and Programming document of this section. -- ISP is Lattice Egon Bild <ebild@metronet.de> wrote in article <3445200c.4725745@pop-news.metronet.de>... > does somebody now the pinout of the Download Cable > for In-System programming of LATTICE ispLSI? I have > download the file "DLCABLE.PDF" from LATTICE ftp > server, but there is no detailed pinout.Article: 7805
Egon Bild wrote: > >Ray Andraka wrote: > >>for the 8 pin Amp .100 SIP connector: >>pin description >>1 VCC >>2 SDO (from the device) >>3 SDI (to the device) >>4 /ispEN >>5 Key (plugged hole in connector) >>6 MODE >>7 GND >>8 SCLK > >Thanks for your answer. The pinout for the 8 pin Amp .100 SIP >connector is in the "dlcable.pdf" sheet to, but how does the >25-pin parallel port adapter on the PC side look like ? GIF emailed. (This is a binary-free newsgroup!) General comment for people considering using ipsLSI - I think the Lattice starter kit is good value, particularly if you get it as part of the deal for attending an introductory seminar/presentation. I also think Lattice pDS is lousy value. Shame as I find the ICs useful. Tim Forcer tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk Department of Electronics & Computer Science The University of Southampton, UK The University is not responsible for my opinionsArticle: 7806
Egon Bild wrote: > >Ray Andraka wrote: > >>for the 8 pin Amp .100 SIP connector: >>pin description >>1 VCC >>2 SDO (from the device) >>3 SDI (to the device) >>4 /ispEN >>5 Key (plugged hole in connector) >>6 MODE >>7 GND >>8 SCLK > >Thanks for your answer. The pinout for the 8 pin Amp .100 SIP >connector is in the "dlcable.pdf" sheet to, but how does the >25-pin parallel port adapter on the PC side look like ? GIF emailed. (This is a binary-free newsgroup!) General comment for people considering using ipsLSI - I think the Lattice starter kit is good value, particularly if you get it as part of the deal for attending an introductory seminar/presentation. I also think Lattice pDS is lousy value. Shame as I find the ICs useful. Tim Forcer tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk Department of Electronics & Computer Science The University of Southampton, UK The University is not responsible for my opinions ========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======: Rogue cancel from Michael Enlow, X-Cancelled-by etc. are forged. Control: cancel <34471910.1240@ecs.soton.ac.uk.nojunk>Article: 7807
We are routing a largish design with a lot of buses and a high gate usuage. The "highest clock Frequency" reported by the XACT system seems to vary a lot depending on the original seed value, semmingly at random! 1. Are the reported propagation delays accurate? 2. Is there any guidelines about choosing the seed apart from at random? TIA Ian McCrum, lecturer University of Ulster, Northern Ireland MAILTO:IJ.McCrum@ulst.ac.uk -----------------------------------------------Article: 7808
We are routing a largish design with a lot of buses and a high gate usuage. The "highest clock Frequency" reported by the XACT system seems to vary a lot depending on the original seed value, semmingly at random! 1. Are the reported propagation delays accurate? 2. Is there any guidelines about choosing the seed apart from at random? TIA Ian McCrum, lecturer University of Ulster, Northern Ireland MAILTO:IJ.McCrum@ulst.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------- ========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======: Rogue cancel from Michael Enlow, X-Cancelled-by etc. are forged. Control: cancel <34472748.973586@news.u-net.com>Article: 7809
Hi, can anybody tell me if there are serial EEPROMs available for ALTERA FLEX10K devices? Thanks, AndreasArticle: 7810
Hi, can anybody tell me if there are serial EEPROMs available for ALTERA FLEX10K devices? Thanks, Andreas ========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======: Rogue cancel from Michael Enlow, X-Cancelled-by etc. are forged. Control: cancel <627peh$1vga@info4.rus.uni-stuttgart.de>Article: 7811
Fault-Simulation - Turbo Fault High Performance Fault Simulator: TurboFault combines high performance, versatility and accuracy. It is highly competitive with hardware accelerators for classical test fault grading. It supports synchronous and asynchronous designs at the gate-level, including tri-state gates, latches, flip-flops, single and multi-port RAMS, complex bus resolution functions, and USER Defined primitives (UDPs). TurboFault reads Verilog gate-level netlists, and will also read Standard Delay Format (SDF) timing files. Advanced Cached-Concurrent Algorithm: Turbofault utilizes a new algorithm optimed for today's computer hardware that maximizes the simulation power of workstations. Syntest Cached-Concurrent algorithm eliminates needless operations and with new Fast Queque technology combines the best of unit delay and cycle-based capabilities. No other fault simulator, hardware or software, matches the performance of TurboFault. TurboFault makes fault simulation an integral design tool for generating a quality manufacturing test set. TurboFault supports single timing delay for simulation accuracy and flexibility, without sacrificing speed. TurboFault is the fastest concurrent fault simulator based on the latest advances in cycle-based simulation technology. It simulates even *faster* than existing expensive hardware accelerated fault simulators. Fault simulation also consumes memory very quickly, so memory management is critical. TurboFault combines efficient memory management with special fault handling resulting in low memory consumption. To hear more of Turbo-Fault, please send an e-mail to Suzanne@world.std.com, please send us your company name, your name and fax #. Thanks! The staff at Syntest Technology.Article: 7812
I McCrum wrote: > > We are routing a largish design with a lot of buses and a high gate > usuage. The "highest clock Frequency" reported by the XACT system > seems to vary a lot depending on the original seed value, semmingly at > random! > > 1. Are the reported propagation delays accurate? > 2. Is there any guidelines about choosing the seed apart from at > random? > > TIA > Ian McCrum, lecturer University of Ulster, Northern Ireland > MAILTO:IJ.McCrum@ulst.ac.uk > ----------------------------------------------- The most acurate delays are reported by xdelay. It will be more acurate than the values reported by ppr. Random!!! You've got it. That seed is a seed to a random generation. ************** Remove [ANTI_SPAM] to reply **************Article: 7813
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I McCrum wrote: > > We are routing a largish design with a lot of buses and a high gate > usuage. The "highest clock Frequency" reported by the XACT system > seems to vary a lot depending on the original seed value, semmingly at > random! > > 1. Are the reported propagation delays accurate? > 2. Is there any guidelines about choosing the seed apart from at > random? > > TIA > Ian McCrum, lecturer University of Ulster, Northern Ireland > MAILTO:IJ.McCrum@ulst.ac.uk > ----------------------------------------------- The delays reported by xdelay are more accurate than those reported by PPR. The XDELAY values are quite accurate for worst case. The seed value is indeed a random number generator seed. You can get more consistent and generally better delays by floorplanning the design, which can be done using RLOC attributes, by entering the placement in a constraints file or by using the XACT 6 floorplanner (which creates a constraints file). Floorplanning takes the variability due to placement out of the equation. -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randrakaArticle: 7815
I McCrum wrote: > > We are routing a largish design with a lot of buses and a high gate > usuage. The "highest clock Frequency" reported by the XACT system > seems to vary a lot depending on the original seed value, semmingly at > random! > > 1. Are the reported propagation delays accurate? > 2. Is there any guidelines about choosing the seed apart from at > random? > > TIA > Ian McCrum, lecturer University of Ulster, Northern Ireland > MAILTO:IJ.McCrum@ulst.ac.uk > ----------------------------------------------- The delays reported by xdelay are more accurate than those reported by PPR. The XDELAY values are quite accurate for worst case. The seed value is indeed a random number generator seed. You can get more consistent and generally better delays by floorplanning the design, which can be done using RLOC attributes, by entering the placement in a constraints file or by using the XACT 6 floorplanner (which creates a constraints file). Floorplanning takes the variability due to placement out of the equation. -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randraka ========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======: Rogue cancel from Michael Enlow, X-Cancelled-by etc. are forged. Control: cancel <3447E30F.5C64@ids.net>Article: 7816
Hi all, Firstly you will have to excuse me if I make some newsgroup fopars, as this is the first time I have used the news system.... Anyways, has anyone had a problem as follows. AND2B1 gates wrongly being minimised out by XBLOX to be a connection to ground rather than a bit of wire? I have a medium design that uses a lot of busses between counters. Each bit of every counter uses a block that I have designed which is basically a T-Type ff with a MUX that allows either data to be loaded into the ff or allows the ff to toggle. I have reported the problem to XILINX UK, and they are having the same minimisation problem. It seems that any AND2b1 used in this configuration gets removed. Is it me or has any one else had this problem - as if it is a bug, then it could prove problematic to fix. If anyone is interested give me a shout and I will email them the schematic (The schematic is only 4 gates, a ff, and a handfull of pins, so it is quite small). Look forward to a responce. TOny -- Sent By tony.cooper@virgin.netArticle: 7817
Hi all, Firstly you will have to excuse me if I make some newsgroup fopars, as this is the first time I have used the news system.... Anyways, has anyone had a problem as follows. AND2B1 gates wrongly being minimised out by XBLOX to be a connection to ground rather than a bit of wire? I have a medium design that uses a lot of busses between counters. Each bit of every counter uses a block that I have designed which is basically a T-Type ff with a MUX that allows either data to be loaded into the ff or allows the ff to toggle. I have reported the problem to XILINX UK, and they are having the same minimisation problem. It seems that any AND2b1 used in this configuration gets removed. Is it me or has any one else had this problem - as if it is a bug, then it could prove problematic to fix. If anyone is interested give me a shout and I will email them the schematic (The schematic is only 4 gates, a ff, and a handfull of pins, so it is quite small). Look forward to a responce. TOny -- Sent By tony.cooper@virgin.net ========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======: Rogue cancel from Michael Enlow, X-Cancelled-by etc. are forged. Control: cancel <34488399.25B2@virgin.net>Article: 7818
Hello. I am using a Xilinx 4008E on the address bus of a Motorola 68360. I have some address pins and two chip selects from the 360 going to the 4008E. CS4 goes to a SGCK. CS5 goes to an I/O pin. I'm using Exemplar Leonardo to do VHDL synthesis. When data is written to the 4008E, I have the VHDL look like: if (cs5'event and cs5='1') then ... end if This searches for the rising edge of CS5 to latch the data. Leonardo wants to add a BUFG to port cs5 for (I guess) obvious reasons. This will not get placed & routed by Xilinx software because I don't have CS5 routed to a GCK pin. However, I can modify the resulting XNF file and change the BUFG to a IBUF and it will place & route and work fine. I can do the same thing for CS4, but keep the BUFG in place and I get similar timing. The code is very small and therefore, CS5_INT (internal signal in the FPGA) is not routed to many logic blocks. Therefore, its load is somewhat small. My question is this: Why does Leonardo add the BUFG to the pin? It isn't necessary, right? It just helps in making timing a little better. Because I don't have CS5 connected to a GCK, how can I force Leonardo (through VHDL) to connect it to a standard IBUF? Should I define the IBUF as a component in VHDL? Thanks for any notes on this. Perhaps someone can recommend a different way to handle this, too... Cheers, Jake -- janovetz@uiuc.edu | Once you have flown, you will walk the earth with University of Illinois | your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, | there you long to return. -- da Vinci PP-ASEL | http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~janovetz/index.htmlArticle: 7819
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Please Help.. We are working on a project whit the ALTERA Chips But the we need more" Logic Blocks" i think we need 15 000 . On each "Block" we only use very litle of the functions. Is there some other way to do this? (We will pay for help if you can design it for us) Thanks.. Per
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