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I'm trying use the JERC in a machine with Solaris OS, the problem is with Webscope, each time I try compile with java if find for ( libWebScope.so ). In the distribution of Jerc I have (09-21-1998) from ftp://ftp.xilinx.com/pub/utilities/6200/, the only library for WebScope is a .DLL, and it also happens with others like: Pci6200.dll WebScope.dll XC6200DLL.dll How can I do it to use these libraries in my Sun workstation? Do I must to recompile? How do I can do it? It's very important for me, I have developed a reconfigurable tool for 6200 with Hotworks board. Thank you, and sorry for my poor english. Josan M. (jmorenoz@lslsun.epfl.ch)Article: 17851
vortekdoug@my-deja.com wrote: > .... > The FPGA can do things like the frequency counter > easily. The micro just reads it when interupted. > There is almost no software overhead. > If you have a system clock other than the one you are measuring, you don't need to do any interrupts. The FPGA can keep the measured frequency in a register that can be read by the processor at any time. The register is just updated at whatever measurement interval is convenient. Uses two counters, a register and a little sync logic. One counter just sets the sample period in terms of the reference clock, the other counts cycles of the measured clock in the sample period, The register is loaded from the second counter and the second counter is reset each each time the first counter cycles. That way as soon as the first measurement is completed, the register always has a valid frequency measurement that is no older than the sample period. The sync logic just resyncs the terminal count from the first counter to the measured clock to keep everything kosher. -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randrakaArticle: 17852
See also my May 1999 posting on this subject, http://www.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=478287358&fmt=text. Jan GrayArticle: 17853
In article <7rj41c$nvo$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, vortekdoug@my-deja.com wrote: > I have to agree with Jashua (Msg 9). > You will never get a microcontroller that is the > perfect fit. I always need one more counter or > PWM. > The last system I did uses a 80C32 and a Xilinx > 5202. The 5202 has decode logic, PWM controls, an > SPI port, and an application specific frequncy > measurement circuit. > The FPGA can do things like the frequency counter > easily. The micro just reads it when interupted. > There is almost no software overhead. > The flexibility is great. I redid the SPI port in > two days when anouther engineer put an oddball > Burr Brown A/D onto the serial bus. We did not > have to redo boards, or change any parts. > Here is the kicker: 80C32 => $1.60, XC5202 => > $7.50. That is hard to beat for totally custom > hardware. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. > Just to add in my ten cents worth, the mix strategy works best for us. We are involved in very fast time to market projects, so we need a mix that will keep the schedule tight. In general, we use a core microcontroller (just the processor, not a lot of built-in I/O) with a memory mapped interface to an FPGA. The COTS microcontrollers are cheap and easy to get. We don't have to worry about synthesizing it and proving that it works, and we can plug in logic analyzers and emulators into the sockets. The FPGA is responsible for all I/O (with the exception of very big I/O functions such as complex UARTs). We even avoid using general purpose I/O on the microcontroller. We quickly lay down the first-pass guts of the FPGA implementation, lock the pins, and go to art. We can then clean up the FPGA design and run simulations while the boards are being designed and manufactured. We pick an FPGA that is at least twice as big as we think we need, and we make sure that the footprint will allow the next size up again, if needed. This is how we get away with locking the pins early. Xilinx SpartanXL parts are inexpensive enough that the wasted resources are not a big deal. If you are going to build zillions of your widgets, then you can cost reduce it later. Making changes to the design in the debug phase is easy, you change the FPGA to fix I/O problems, and change the microcontroller code to fix software problems. And your customer is in awe when you deliver a first pass prototype with no blue wires. Using this strategy we have turned around designs (spec to prototype to first production lot) in less than two weeks, including PCB design, FPGA design, software, assembly, test, and documentation. IMHO, the microcontroller/FPGA mix is the fastest and most cost- effective path to market. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Article: 17854
"José Luis Ayala" wrote: > > Hi, > Anyone have any experience with FPGAs from Lucent (ORCA FPGA)? > I have a problem with the mapping process because the ORCA's software > clips and removes all my output ports, giving error messages like: > '<output_register_name>/NEOBUF (NEOINV) undriven or does not drive > anything', '<output_register_name>/NEOLATCH (NEOLATCH) undriven or does > not drive anything', '<pad_name>.PAD (NEOPAD) undriven or does not drive > anything'. > Thanks a lot > > Jose Luis Ayala > Electronic Engineering Department > Technical University of Madrid > Spain > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. I am not an expert, but I might be able to help. But you will need to provide a little more info. What are you using for design entry, an HDL or schematic? If you think your IOs are being clipped, have you traced the netlist back to see what step is clipping them? Is it possible that your net list out of your front end tool is not really connecting the IO port to the rest of the circuit? The error messages you give indicate that perhaps the rest of the circuit has been clipped. Or are those messages from the tool that is clipping the unconnected elements? -- Rick Collins rick.collins@XYarius.com remove the XY to email me. Arius - A Signal Processing Solutions Company Specializing in DSP and FPGA design Arius 4 King Ave Frederick, MD 21701-3110 301-682-7772 Voice 301-682-7666 FAX Internet URL http://www.arius.comArticle: 17855
I don't know off the top of my head, but I can tell you where to look. Go into the FPGA editor (the replacement for EPIC) in the xilinx 2.1 tools. Select a virtex part and turn on all the graphics. Click on each node in the switchboxes and it will show you where they can connect. light lines are inputs to the node, heavy lines are outputs from the node. Vijay Lakamraju wrote: > Hi Folks, > I am in search of some information regarding > the local routing resources provided in the Virtex > Architecture. > I am specifically referring to the connection > pattern in the Local Interconnection Matrix (LIM). > I know that the output multiplexer(OMUX) is fully > populated (i.e any of the 13 CLB outputs can drive > any of the eight output pins) but the input > multiplexer(IMUX) is not (i.e. every CLB input pin > CANNOT connect to every input signal of the IMUX). > I was wondering if anyone had some information > regarding the pattern in which the inputs to the IMUX > are connected to the inputs of the CLB. I know of the > pattern that is used in XC5200 but havent been able to > find the information for Virtex. > > Please email or post any information or pointers u may have > regarding the connection pattern of the IMUX in Virtex. > > Thanks in advance, > > Vijay > > -- > Architecture and Real-time Lab > 310 Knowles Engg. Bldg. > UMass, Amherst, MA 01003 > email: vlakamra@ecs.umass.edu -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randrakaArticle: 17856
We are at the very beginning of developing a design-kit for a mixed-signal semicostum gate-array. Are there any tools for static timing analysis with VITAL-libraries? Have you ever written a VITAL library? Are threre any special points to consider? Best regards, AntonArticle: 17857
In article <7rinas$sqa$1@news.qub.ac.uk>, "Khaled BENKRID" <kbenkrid@microsoft.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > I am a Foundation Express 1.5i user. I had recently some > problems with my Operating System (Windows 95), I was obliged to > reinstall it again along with all the software I had on machine > (including Foundation software). Now, I have a problem with > Foundation software. When I implement my project, the > translation phase goes fine, but as soon as the mapping phase > starts, I get the following error: > > ******** > This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut > down. If the problem persists, contact the program vendor. > ******** > > The program terminates abnormally. What should I do? Try the Xilinx web site. There are several hints about this type of error. I had a problem with the mapping caused by a buggy Visual C DLL. I copied another version of the DLL from another machine and everything was fine. Leon -- Leon Heller, G1HSM Tel (Mobile): 079 9098 1221 (Work): 01327 357824 Email: leon_heller@hotmail.com Web: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Code/1835 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Article: 17858
Which manufacturers are presently claiming to be the lowest power? I know Quicklogic and Actel (and others) go back and forth about who is fastest. But who is the lowest power (given identical clock rates, func, etc.)? I know Phillips/Xilinx Coolrunner is low power, but those are mainly for gate intensive designs. My application is flip-flop intensive. Thanks in advance, Keith -- Keith F. Jasinski, Jr. kfjasins@execpc.comArticle: 17859
Hi, I'm throwing this problem out to a wider audience for opinions. The following simple VHDL... T <= '0' when (D = '1' and B= '1') or (D = '0' and S = '1') else '1'; when compiled by Xilinx WebFitter (version W011) generates the following gate level implementation (* = AND, + = OR, / = NOT)... T = D * /B + /D * /S (Earth shattering stuff eh!) The problem I'm having is in the form of a low going glitch on the T output for a low to high change in the D input when both B and S are low. I know this should not happen from the above VHDL. But due to timing or threshold differences on the two D signal paths inside the physical part (Xilinx 9500 series CPLD) I definitely get a low glitch on the output. Needless to say, the original source statement simulates with out any problems in Active-HDL for these input conditions (I would guess no simulator would show up anything as it's an implementation problem). I've reported the problem to Xilinx, but they insist the generated gate level implementation is logically correct, hence no problem of theirs. Opinions would be greatly appreciated, Ray Almond.Article: 17860
What you're describing is a common problem with combinatorial logic. As the signal propagates through the device (this will vary from device to device or even FPGA layout to FPGA layout in the same device) signals will arrive at the various gates at different times and cause states to change. Any digital design circuit that cannot handle a glitch needs to be "synchronized" with a flip-flop. The signal is only valid on the clock edge and can glitch any time it wants in between them. This is where good, synchronous design practices are required and should be used. If you have questions regarding basic synchronous design, check out AMIs website www.amis.com -- Keith F. Jasinski, Jr. kfjasins@execpc.com Ray Almond <raya@noral.co.uk> wrote in message news:937316958.25401.0.nnrp-10.9e98661e@news.demon.co.uk... > Hi, > I'm throwing this problem out to a wider audience for opinions. > The following simple VHDL... > T <= '0' when (D = '1' and B= '1') or (D = '0' and S = '1') else '1'; > when compiled by Xilinx WebFitter (version W011) generates the following > gate level implementation (* = AND, + = OR, / = NOT)... > T = D * /B + /D * /S (Earth shattering stuff eh!) > The problem I'm having is in the form of a low going glitch on the T output > for a low to high change in the D input when both B and S are low. > I know this should not happen from the above VHDL. But due to timing or > threshold differences on the two D signal paths inside the physical part > (Xilinx 9500 series CPLD) I definitely get a low glitch on the output. > Needless to say, the original source statement simulates with out any > problems in Active-HDL for these input conditions (I would guess no > simulator would show up anything as it's an implementation problem). > I've reported the problem to Xilinx, but they insist the generated gate > level implementation is logically correct, hence no problem of theirs. > Opinions would be greatly appreciated, > Ray Almond. > > >Article: 17861
Hi all, to fix/define the ACTEL pinning already in ViewDraw the PIN Attribute on signals can be used (PIN= [ACTEL_Pin_Nr.]). It works on single signals but not on busses. PIN=[x:z] or PIN= x,y,z does not work. Thanx for solutions!Article: 17862
Hi, I'm currently doing some HW/SW codesign with xilinx & altera fpga's and I was wondering if there are such things as low cost/demo/free verilog synthesis software available? I use synplify but I'd like to be able to do some stuff from home, without having to *sell* my home in order to afford these tools. I don't need anything really complicated at all...just something that'll take simple behavioral/structural verilog and download it into a xilinx or altera chip (via JTAG if possible). Do any of the companies out there offer time or functionality limited demos? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Article: 17863
Has anyone successfully ported a PCI core to the Lucent Orca 3T family? If so, who was the core vendor? Also, how fast did you run it and what, if any, major problems did you encounter? Thanks, -- -------------------------- -- -- Robert Sefton -- Senior Design Engineer -- -- CoSine Communications -- 1200 Bridge Parkway -- Redwood City, CA 94065 -- -- Direct: 650.637.2441 -- Main: 650.637.4777 -- Fax: 650.637.2412 -- --------------------------Article: 17864
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999 14:21:50 +0100, "Ray Almond" <raya@noral.co.uk> wrote: >Hi, >I'm throwing this problem out to a wider audience for opinions. >The following simple VHDL... > T <= '0' when (D = '1' and B= '1') or (D = '0' and S = '1') else '1'; >when compiled by Xilinx WebFitter (version W011) generates the following >gate level implementation (* = AND, + = OR, / = NOT)... > T = D * /B + /D * /S (Earth shattering stuff eh!) >The problem I'm having is in the form of a low going glitch on the T output >for a low to high change in the D input when both B and S are low. >I know this should not happen from the above VHDL. But due to timing or >threshold differences on the two D signal paths inside the physical part >(Xilinx 9500 series CPLD) I definitely get a low glitch on the output. >Needless to say, the original source statement simulates with out any >problems in Active-HDL for these input conditions (I would guess no >simulator would show up anything as it's an implementation problem). >I've reported the problem to Xilinx, but they insist the generated gate >level implementation is logically correct, hence no problem of theirs. >Opinions would be greatly appreciated, >Ray Almond. > > > Hi Ray, This is a classic case of how combinatorial logic behaves in the real world....the relative delays in different paths in the circuit are somewhat unpredictable, as are exact switching thresholds etc. as you state. Hence, you get a different result to the ideal, as demonstrated by your observations. This is, as Xilinx suggest, not their problem (although I do hope they were a bit more helpful than that!). It is a case of adjusting your implementation. The usual way is to make your design synchronous to a clock of some sort, so that glitches which occur during signal transitions are ignored. If you would like to discuss this further, please email me directly. Best Regards Graeme Durant HELION Technology Limited, Cambridge, UK. Xilinx Xpert Consultancy mailto:gd@heliontech.com Graeme Durant HELION Technology Limited Programmable Logic Design Specialists The Granary, Home End, Fulbourn, Cambridge CB1 5BS, UK. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ mailto:gd@heliontech.com http://www.heliontech.com XILINX CERTIFIED GOLD LEVEL DESIGN CONSULTANT ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Article: 17865
you can get a one-time 30 day eval license from both synplicity and exemplar for their tools. dr0ne@my-deja.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently doing some HW/SW codesign with xilinx & altera fpga's and > I was wondering if there are such things as low cost/demo/free verilog > synthesis software available? I use synplify but I'd like to be able to > do some stuff from home, without having to *sell* my home in order to > afford these tools. I don't need anything really complicated at > all...just something that'll take simple behavioral/structural verilog > and download it into a xilinx or altera chip (via JTAG if possible). Do > any of the companies out there offer time or functionality limited > demos? > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. -- -Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 email randraka@ids.net http://users.ids.net/~randrakaArticle: 17866
"Ray Almond" <raya@noral.co.uk> wrote: >I know this should not happen from the above VHDL. But due to timing or >threshold differences on the two D signal paths inside the physical part >(Xilinx 9500 series CPLD) I definitely get a low glitch on the output. this is normal and expectable. >Needless to say, the original source statement simulates with out any >problems in Active-HDL for these input conditions (I would guess no >simulator would show up anything as it's an implementation problem). Because your description of the hardware is not accurate. If you get delay information from P&R and annotate it to your gate level netlist, you will see similar glitches at your simulator too. >I've reported the problem to Xilinx, but they insist the generated gate >level implementation is logically correct, hence no problem of theirs. They are probably right. >Opinions would be greatly appreciated, Whether you need to fix this problem depends on your design. If the circuit which takes T as input can live with these glitches of course there is no problem. If not, you need to remove the glitch by waiting enough time before looking at T so that all internal nodes have stabilized. There are various ways of doing this, one of which is to use a system wide clock, set the period to maximum of the said delays and register all outputs. Of course such a design methodology can give you big, power hungry designs but they are much easier to design. muzo Verilog, ASIC/FPGA and NT Driver Development Consulting (remove nospam from email)Article: 17867
As far as I know the only solution is to break the bus into individual pins. Adam Ingo Purnhagen wrote: > Hi all, > > to fix/define the ACTEL pinning already in ViewDraw the PIN Attribute on > signals can be used (PIN= [ACTEL_Pin_Nr.]). > It works on single signals but not on busses. > PIN=[x:z] or PIN= x,y,z does not work. > > Thanx for solutions! -- "Sometimes I think the surest sign that there's intelligent life on other planets is that none of it has tried to contact us." - Calvin, "Calvin and Hobbes"Article: 17868
I'm just going to throw my 2 cents in here, but If you look on Xilinx's IP web site, you'll see CAST offering something that "sounds" like the small version of the Free-DES core. ie 16 clock cycles, change keys every block. encode/decode... The difference? It requires 255 slices vs the FREE-DES Synplify 731 slices and runs at over 100 MHz in a -6, instead of the 32.5 MHz of the Synplified Free-DES core. Now, as I'm a good British "Subject" I have not seen what the Free-DES core contains but if we assume that they do both implement the same basic functionality, we should not infer that the two benchmarked synthesis tools are appalling, should we? No. Instead we should perhaps assume that one designer has a more "elegant" solution than the other and that one synthesis tool makes a better job with a "less optimal" design than the other. I wonder what synthesis tool the Xentec suppliers of the CAST core used? :-) Comments and thoughts welcome. Cheers Stuart On 21 Aug 1999 19:21:29 PDT, muzok@nospam.pacbell.net (muzo) wrote: >just check-out http://www.free-ip.com/DES/index.htm and look for the >comparisons between Synplify and FPGA express. >muzo > >Verilog, ASIC/FPGA and NT Driver Development Consulting (remove nospam from email) For Email remove "NOSPAM" from the addressArticle: 17869
For years now, I have programmed simple PALs using the free PALASM package from AMD (now Vantis). While PALASM is still adequate for much of the designs that I do (mostly 26V12, 22V10 and 16V8 designs), I will be doing some bigger devices in the near future (small MACH devices and such) and wish to start learning VHDL since it is more "industry standard". So I'm looking for a free (or low cost) VHDL package with a reasonable learning curve that I can use to program simple PALs and small FPGA's. Additionally, is there a book or manual that addresses such applications? Most VHDL stuff I've seen tend to concentrate heavily on the software side. Thanks, Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Article: 17870
In article <DNrD3.6480$gW5.2061399@homer.alpha.net>, "Keith Jasinski, Jr." <jasinski@mortara.com> wrote: > Which manufacturers are presently claiming to be the lowest power? I know > Quicklogic and Actel (and others) go back and forth about who is fastest. > But who is the lowest power (given identical clock rates, func, etc.)? > > I know Phillips/Xilinx Coolrunner is low power, but those are mainly for > gate intensive designs. My application is flip-flop intensive. > > Thanks in advance, > Keith > > -- > Keith F. Jasinski, Jr. > kfjasins@execpc.com > > The lowest power I have found is the Xilinx 3000L series. Be warned, the specs say they will run down to 3.0V. At 3.0V there is about a 10 to 15% fallout. I'm not sure how much support Xilinx will give these parts in the future. I have similar requirements (low power, FF oriented). If anybody has information I would like to hear it too. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Article: 17871
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E2AFE954D28AC04A55FCC37C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xilinx has updated their free tools for CPLD design so that they support VHDL and Verilog. They are at: http://www.xilinx.com/sxpresso/webpack.htm dr0ne@my-deja.com wrote: > Hi, > > I'm currently doing some HW/SW codesign with xilinx & altera fpga's and > I was wondering if there are such things as low cost/demo/free verilog > synthesis software available? I use synplify but I'd like to be able to > do some stuff from home, without having to *sell* my home in order to > afford these tools. I don't need anything really complicated at > all...just something that'll take simple behavioral/structural verilog > and download it into a xilinx or altera chip (via JTAG if possible). Do > any of the companies out there offer time or functionality limited > demos? > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. --------------E2AFE954D28AC04A55FCC37C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="devb.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dave Vanden Bout Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="devb.vcf" begin:vcard n:Vanden Bout;David tel;fax:(919) 387-1302 tel;work:(919) 387-0076 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.xess.com org:XESS Corp. adr:;;2608 Sweetgum Drive;Apex;NC;27502;USA version:2.1 email;internet:devb@xess.com title:FPGA Product Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;28560 fn:Dave Vanden Bout end:vcard --------------E2AFE954D28AC04A55FCC37C--Article: 17872
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------5F0551CE04D299486F535EAD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You can try the Xilinx Student edition. It has a lab book that shows how to use VHDL for CPLD and FPGA designs. And it comes with the Xilinx and FPGA Express tools for VHDL, Verilog, ABEL, and schematic design. You can see more about it at http://www.xess.com/prod011.html. leejp@my-deja.com wrote: > For years now, I have programmed simple PALs using the free PALASM > package from AMD (now Vantis). While PALASM is still adequate for much > of the designs that I do (mostly 26V12, 22V10 and 16V8 designs), I > will be doing some bigger devices in the near future (small MACH devices > and such) and wish to start learning VHDL since it is more "industry > standard". > > So I'm looking for a free (or low cost) VHDL package with a reasonable > learning curve that I can use to program simple PALs and small FPGA's. > > Additionally, is there a book or manual that addresses such > applications? Most VHDL stuff I've seen tend to concentrate heavily on > the software side. > > Thanks, > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't. --------------5F0551CE04D299486F535EAD Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="devb.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Dave Vanden Bout Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="devb.vcf" begin:vcard n:Vanden Bout;David tel;fax:(919) 387-1302 tel;work:(919) 387-0076 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.xess.com org:XESS Corp. adr:;;2608 Sweetgum Drive;Apex;NC;27502;USA version:2.1 email;internet:devb@xess.com title:FPGA Product Manager x-mozilla-cpt:;28560 fn:Dave Vanden Bout end:vcard --------------5F0551CE04D299486F535EAD--Article: 17873
Cypress (www.cypress.com) has a VHDL/Verilog package for $99. I was able to get a free copy from the local Cypress rep. It has a VHDL/Verilog compiler, simulator, and a finite state machine editor. I doubt it supports the MACH parts. I think the stuff that Cypress offers is similar. A few months back when I was looking their parts seemed pretty good. They have CPLDs, not really FPGAs. I really needed FPGAs and decided on QuickLogic (and Verilog). I did use the Cypress tools (mostly VHDL) for a few weeks and they seemed to be good. leejp@my-deja.com wrote: > For years now, I have programmed simple PALs using the free PALASM > package from AMD (now Vantis). While PALASM is still adequate for much > of the designs that I do (mostly 26V12, 22V10 and 16V8 designs), I > will be doing some bigger devices in the near future (small MACH devices > and such) and wish to start learning VHDL since it is more "industry > standard". > > So I'm looking for a free (or low cost) VHDL package with a reasonable > learning curve that I can use to program simple PALs and small FPGA's. > > Additionally, is there a book or manual that addresses such > applications? Most VHDL stuff I've seen tend to concentrate heavily on > the software side. > > Thanks, > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Share what you know. Learn what you don't.Article: 17874
On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 10:53:40 GMT, Davide Rizzo <el.pa@libero.it> wrote: >My point of view: >Altera have (had) a better development system, but xilinx chips are >cheaper. >Altera doesn't provide internal 3-state signals, and emulates them with >logic (a lot of logic !). >eng. Davide Rizzo > >Yannis Mitsos wrote: > >> I would like to know which are the major differences between the PLD's >> of the above companies. I have worked with ALTERA FLEX series. >> >> Thanks >> >> Yannis > ==================================================== I have some reseration about these unquantified statements where cost is concerned. For what ONE large XILINX FPGA costs, you can buy a VERY well-equipped PC. What I can't understand is that these $800-900 parts keep popping up in things costing much less than that. Can anyone explain that? Dick
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